HUGE headache

Classy · Posted: May 14, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: HUGE headache

Building a winch, although alot cheaper than buying one. Is providing me with nothing but stress and a huge headache. We've encountered many many many problems along the way. We just got "finished" building it two days ago. Last night after work, and my Navy DEP meeting, Steven, and Myself got to assemble this bad boy. Only to find that the location of the motor has royally screwed up. The chain is either way too loose. But if we go to take out another link, it's too short. O yea baby. We're back to the drawing board, and have some serious welds to knock out!!! Evil or Very Mad

CGA PFD · Posted: May 14, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/AZ8190.html?id=SnKGQPCx

Culp · Posted: May 14, 2008 11:56 am Post subject:

Just slot the holes that your motor mounts to and then you can get your chain to the correct tension

Cary K. · Posted: May 14, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject:

That is prob the best solution, but you could also buy a half-link for the chain and/or get a tensioner. Better than grinding welds.

skimboarder · Posted: May 14, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

I was wondering what was taking so long on this thing. In the end it'll be worth it bro. Smash

price.dan · Backside 180 Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1404 City: Regina

Classy, I had this same problem. When you mount your engine you shouldn't drill holes for the engine bolts to go through. You should make a slit in the steal so you can move the bolts back and forth allowing you to take out the slack out of the chain.

Classy · Posted: May 14, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject:

Here is the problem with those options, although that are good ideas, and very cheap to execute. We measured it up, and welded bolts sticking up to put the motor on... We have to put the motor up on square tube to raise it off the frame so the TAV 2 wouldnt touch the frame...

JeffKnox · Posted: May 14, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject:

if your axle is mounted on a slant like this...

you can also slide up and down the pillow block bearings allowing you to have a link or so difference... thats how we tighten mine... the plate is just a hassle cause your always sliding the engine back to tighten the chain due to the engine sliding forward from vibrating

Classy · Posted: May 14, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject:

JeffKnox, haha, we're noobs to building winches. We welded the axle bearings on too

JeffKnox · Posted: May 14, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

haha yea welds leave no room for error

Soulprogression · Posted: May 14, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:

building a winch is a lot of work, do it right, take you're time, I'm still working on things to fix and make my winch better all the time, don't rush it because you're gonna make more mistakes and more work for your self. try to think ahead to sometimes you can eliminate them before they bring you're project to a hault

sandiego4real · Backside 180 Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 518

Also a great habit to get into is tack weld your whole frame together and mount everything. And if it all lines up good take it apart finish the welding, paint then ur done with no major headaches

price.dan · Backside 180 Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1404 City: Regina

Soulprogression, well said.

Classy, Try to not weld as many things as possible. Especially anything involving the axle. I'm currently in the stage of fixing almost everything i've welded. I was like you, welding my spool to my axle, welding sprocket to the axle. In the long run it will give you headaches, because in the future you are going to want to update certain aspects of your winch.

Be patient and make it nice because it's your winch

Kay-Kay · Posted: May 14, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:

chris barcellos' winch has a skate wheel mounted to the frame that takes out the slack in the chain. Might be your only option at this point, or at least the easies option. If you search integrity winch you might be able to find pictures.

Classy · Posted: May 14, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject:

price.dan, The spool or the sprocket arent welded to the frame, however that not adjustable...

I figured welding most everything up would make one solid winch...which is true. But I get to the last step and bam, I'm insta-screwed. I just figured being about to take/add link I'd be fine with the chain. But this motor is simple in the wrong spot, but a quater inch or so

EJazzle · Posted: May 14, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject:

Classy, so a tensioner is out? thats what i have, it helps so much!

i'll post a picture of it tomorrow if you want

LFArmada · Backside 180 Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 631 City: tucson

i was in the same delema in my build up as uClassy, I just ordered one of those plates. I hope it solves that problem.

hus #1 · Ollie Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 71 City: UK

you may be able to change the angle of the TAV2 therefore giving a different chain length

the TAV mounting plate has many holes for different mounting positions

might work ???

and worth a try before you get the grinder out on your welds

Classy · Posted: May 15, 2008 9:01 am Post subject:

EJazzle, No, the tensioner is no out of the question. However, the angle my chain is at I will seriously have to weld up some support for this thing, and my winch is already uber heavy, but if all else fails, I will use a tensioner.

hus #1, I am trying that tonight...possibly

I'm going to try the old dirtbike chain trick. I'm going to take a link out, to were it will to too tight, and try and stretch it on, by getting as much a possible on the sprocket, and slowly turning it, to feel link by link on... Smash

JeffKnox · Posted: May 15, 2008 9:56 am Post subject:

be careful with that... dirtbike chain's are very beefy... the last thing you want is busted chain lol