Backside 180, in the flats or i/o question

[warlock]

how do you do it.. how do you initiate the trick... i'm having a shiznackle time trying to learn this...
thanks in advance

[masi]

in the flats is a lot easier...... all u need to do is when u pop... keep ur handle in tight and just pass it around the back..... when u pass the handle... dont lean backwards to grab it or elese u will fall back right when u land back on the water..... do a few on the water just handle passing the with out fins so u can get used to it.... and make sure when u land..... that u dont lean back..

[PIRATE]

warlock, MAYBE you could start by asking the king of BS 180's himself................................. Dont pass the handle.... passing the handle is for retards.

[hammer49]

This is what I do:

1. Pop
2. Right when you're popping, pull the handle to your back while at the same time, turning your shoulders away from the boat.
3. As the tail of the board is on its way up to level out the ollie, guide it with your back foot until it's your front foot.

It's hard for me to describe it in steps because it is pretty much one fluid motion.

It's up to you if you want to pass the handle mid rotation or land wraped up, then pass.

In my opinion, it will probably be easier to land wraped the first couple tries so it's one less thing you have to think about. Everyone has different strong points though so do what you think is the best.

Also, follow Andrew's advice about practicing with surface spins to get the feeling of having the handle wrapped and riding switch.

[hammer49]

[PIRATE]

[Raven]

you crazy

[warlock]

thanks ... and pirate i did ask you but i'm still having trouble... it is the sequence of the trick that i'm confused about it seems like i'd start w/ the pop then turn head, shoulders, then waist/board... i was not thinking about not passing the handle though.. i guess unlesss i did a i/o and was getting air like i'm scoring on the f/s 180.. should i try and learn the f/s 360 first or the b/s 180???????????????????

[canalskater]

SCOOP! the whole trick is in the back foot. as u ollie and start turning ur upper body scoop with ur back foot as ur popping. start little and go big. and what PIRATE said is kinda true about the handle pass. the trick looks and feels soooo much better if u land blind and pass it after u've landed or jus surface 180 out of it with no pass at all.

[daniel]

i like it with a handle pass

but it looks good both ways

[PIRATE]

hammer49, i just remembered your the dude that doesn't like me or lemons..............

HOW HAVE YOU BEEN BUDDY ????

[TTUFAN24]

PIRATE, i dont like you either

[PIRATE]

TTUFAN24, i know.

[Vance Collins]

Pirate- by king do you mean me?

[PIRATE]

Vance Collins, hahhaha lets have a bs-180 contest with anyone on here.

(even though i must say yours look 1,000,000 times better then last time i saw them.)

[Vance Collins]

PIRATE,

I would, but I can't pop the old 484 as high as the reed.. wait a couple of months for when i get a new sakte.

[PIRATE]

no worries, I got all the time and pop in the world. you got any broken skates you want me to kicks your ass on ???

[Mr. Top Hat]

im down for a contest. depending on weather and other situations i will report back tomarrow.

PIRATE, keep warming up my krown for me, i want it to be comfortable when you give it to me.

[Scotty B]

such a sweet trick ....... passing the handle and riding away switch is key....i dont see what all these honkeys are thinking not passing the handle...its like running a relay with out passing the dude in front the baton

[hammer49]