Big dudes, help me out

Classy · Posted: May 21, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: Big dudes, help me out

I have a buddy we took out to ride yesterday. He's 6'2 220 lbs. He was riding a 41 and we just could not get him out of the water. The boat has more than enough power, but the second he would start to get up the board would sink and he was getting killed. So what size boards are ya'll riding? I was thinking he would be good on a 43/44.

Also maybe getting up is different for big guys. I'm 5'6 140 lbs, so I'm sure things will be different for him. We tried everything possible to get him up and no luck. Is there a trick to it?

Lollar · 360 flip Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 8253

I dont think its the board he is riding. Tell him to stay in the squat position until he is out of the water.

Classy · Posted: May 21, 2008 11:47 am Post subject:

Lollar, Nah. I watched his form. He's good to go. He can get up on a wakeboard. the board just doesnt ever come up out of the water.

Lollar · 360 flip Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 8253

Classy, Weird. Uidzero is the same size maybe a little bigger and he has no problem riding ANY of the new Integrity's. Walaka is taller and he can ride them as well I believe.

Montgomery · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 976 City: Rogers

I was 220 last season and I was riding a 113cm(aprox. 45") flat deck and I also rode my buddies 39" it was a little small for me but I could still ride it. For someone in the 220 range a 41"-43" board should be fine. IMO anything over 43" is too big

buenos · Posted: May 21, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject:

i got a buddy of mine up that is 6'6 280 on my 112 catalyst, i think thats the size...he is a strong dude though the guy ur pulling may not be strong enough

skimboarder · Posted: May 21, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject:

Classy, i guess this is one of the few situations when it's good for us to be smaller guys hahah!

i had a friend who was pretty big, especially in weight. i had him on a 43" armada and he couldn't get up even in full squat. i think sometimes it has to do with the strength of the person trying to get up. i don't understand how he could get up on a wakeboard and not a wakeskate behind the same boat? Neutral

TommyC · Posted: May 21, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject:

im 6'4 220 and ride a 41 ltd integ but i have always ridden a 41 i think funky/lollar has it... he is standing up to fast

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

stay squatted and keep the board as flat as possible... people love to fight the boat and plow when getting up. I've never noticed a problem getting up with smaller boards. I rode Lemons little proto 40.whatever and it was just as easy as getting up on my 43" bigfoot.

Montgomery · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 976 City: Rogers

Classy, has your buddy ever wakeboarded ?

Classy · Posted: May 21, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

Yea. He can get up on a wakeboard, thats why I was thinking a bigger board can help.

He stay squatted and doesnt pull against the boat. But ride as the board raised, and I would normally pop out of the water...He starts to sink down until your can no longer see him.

Any advise? uidzero, Do that sound like he is fighting the boat maybe? It didnt appear that way. But I could be wrong.

Lollar · 360 flip Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 8253

Classy, Tell him to keep his toes pointed up at a 45* angle and it should work for him. I have never heard of anyone with their toes pointed up and the board goes down before. The physics just dont make sense.

ImSoWakested · Backside 180 Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 628 City: Madison

agree with Lollar and uidzero, if your plowing water its gonna be a alot harder, having the board at a slight upward angle while still underwater may help him gradualy rise up

Classy · Posted: May 21, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject:

So should he be leaning back? I'm not good at teaching bigger dudes. No matter what I do I generally just pop out of the water. I would assume the bigger you are, the more proper form you need.

Lollar · 360 flip Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 8253

Classy, NO not really. He should be able to use the same way to get up that everyone else does. Its Physics

Classy · Posted: May 21, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject:

Lollar, ok cool.

POPTART · 360 flip Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7621

tell him to sew up his vag'e and get up

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

Classy, just make sure he doesn't try to stand up at all until he's totally out of the water and the boat is up to a good speed. I keep my weight over my toes to keep the board as flat as possible and my knees as bent as possible until I'm on top of the water. some boats will pop me up and then when I actually go to stand up I end up sinking back down, if that happens just tell him to stay squatted for a little big longer before he tries to stand up.

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

Lollar, yeah it's physics, which is why it's way harder for a fat bastard without proper form to get up Very Happy

believe me I know! weight over the toes if you're having a problem sinking on start up will pop you up way faster. It puts less of a strain on the boat which allows it to get up to speed faster and thats what keeps us fat bastards on top on the water Laughing

hus #1 · Ollie Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 71 City: UK

yeah took me(190lbs) a while to learn to get up on a skate

like they said, put loads of pressure on toes to get the water flowing under skate before standing up