Bi-level breaking

cbsmith999 · Faceplant Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 30 City: Montgomery

Anyone have any experience with the new cassette bi-levels? I've ridden mine for 2 sets and it looks like the bottom deck is cracking through the centerline and the top deck is cracking at the tail past the risers. Any feedback would be appreciated.

PIRATE · Guest

cbsmith999, call thomas he will probably replace it.

Nekkie · Posted: Apr 04, 2005 10:28 am Post subject:

I had a very bad sealant issue on mine that caused it to delam... I am still riding it and it is now cracking everywhere. But that's because I kept riding it after the delam (still love it lol)...

But it should not crack from the start after 2 sets! Shocked

Call or email thomas, he took care of my case and I should get my new decks when Cassette starts sending out their warranty decks, which is soon (1 week)...

masi · Posted: Apr 04, 2005 10:46 am Post subject:

the new batch is comin soon

colorless · Frontside 180 Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 332

There is this little handy option that forums come with now days, it's called search.

Try that, it's only been talked about at least a half dozen times already.
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JamesBoardr · Posted: Apr 04, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject:

my bi-level started dlaminating today and im alittle sad. but the water was 78 and besides the stupid wakeboard camp and their 2 wakesetters today, i had some awesome sets

Nekkie · Posted: Apr 05, 2005 5:31 am Post subject:

what has the wakeboardcamp wakesetter's got to do with your sets? Razz

U riding there?

mergeleft3 · Backside 180 Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 673 City: Orlando

Yeah, mine started to do the same thing. Just call or E-Mail Thomas and he will take care of it.

libertytatz · Ollie Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 77 City: Atlanta

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, why do people think these boards are good. They should sell them in three packs like white t-shirts because they don't last very long. Who cares how it rides if it doesn't last more than three sets. I'm not rich but I do make decent money, and there is no way I would waste it on a bi-level.

Cassette should face the facts and go back to the drawing board and get it right or give it up.

cbsmith999 · Faceplant Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 30 City: Montgomery

I had the original Cassette 41 that came out late 1998 and I rode that thing for 6 years before it snapped. You would think that Cassette would go back to the same vendor who did the sealant process for them in '98. The LF tech 42 from last year (same as 4 trac) also delam'd after 2 weeks it. Bottom line is that the vendor/supplier of sealants to these companies is sucking wind. But i wouldn't trade a wood skate for a composite one any day of the week.

Nekkie · Posted: Apr 05, 2005 11:29 am Post subject:

libertytatz, this has nothing to do with a drawing board.... it's not related to design.

it's about sealant and as cbsmith999 puts it, it has to do with a crappy supplier

stop being a numbnut and go buy a hype, it wont break...

BiLevels are crazy decks, part of the batch had a bad sealant mix. end of the line

libertytatz · Ollie Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 77 City: Atlanta

First off I ride an INTEGRITY, Who do you think picked the sealant for bilevels, The sealant fairy? No, Cassette did and I would say sealant is a crucial part of the design process especially on a wooden board. Just face the facts....... YOU BOUGHT MAGIC BEANS....sucker.

Nekkie · Posted: Apr 05, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject:

LOL

it has nothing to do with design, it's a bad fabrication choice, and it is not the sealant itself that is the cause put probably the mix%... if it's off the glue never seals, ever.

So yeah, cassette made a BIG mistake there, and they are taking care of it. But that doesn't mean the Bi is a bag of magic beans... ride one, you'll see

I seriously loved my integ, but I can't go back to any other kind of board now that I got used to riding the bi...

Raven · Posted: Apr 05, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject:

I feel ya NEKKIE, I have a magic bean. They said they would send me a new one; b/c the tail is cracked and it's delammed on both rails. cool

The new sealant may keep it from delaming; but I don't see how it's going to keep the tail from cracking again?????????4-track

They might have to redesign that top deck with another ply or less bend on the tails.

After riding a bi it would be weird to switch back to a mono-level.

Long live cassette!

Nekkie · Posted: Apr 06, 2005 5:06 am Post subject:

Raven, on my Bi if my tail/nose cracked, it is because I kept riding it after the delam happened lol and it took a LOT of runs before it cracked

When the board delams it weakens everywhere, so it will crack much faster.

If the sealant is good, then it probably wont crack either...

pipo · Backside 180 Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1214 City: 0172

post some pics