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olki Faceplant

Joined: 09 Jul 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Jul 09, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject: Jobe Savage for first board? |
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Hi,
I'm planning to buy a wakeskate. There are not many options in Finland and I could get this Jobe Savage quite cheap. Jobe wasn't in the list of manufacturers in wakeskating.com and I couldn't find discussion about their boards so I started to wonder if there is something terribly wrong with their boards?
This is the board, I would get it in 43":
http://www.jobesports.com/products/wakeskates/savage-wakeskate/
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senorbueno Backside 180

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Posted: Jul 09, 2013 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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If that's the only board you can get, it's better than nothing... But I wouldn't expect it to last very long, and it may be a bit big unless you are a large person... Try and find something closer to 40", and maybe with some concave if you can.
edit... Just looked at the Jobe site out of their decks the Union may be okay. A little big, but if that's all you can get there I say go for it. What other brands are available where you're at?
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olki Faceplant

Joined: 09 Jul 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:32 am Post subject: |
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How do waterskates usually break?
How is it with size? Are the larger boards easier to start with? I've been skateboarding and snowskating almost all of my life, but my relatives will also use the board, and they aren't that technical, so it will mostly be surf kind of action.
I could get that Savage for ~120 $ and if I order from other European country, I quickly looked that I could get Liquid Force Faction for 160 $. The issue is, that I don't want to put a lot of money in it, since I've never even tried one. I've wakeboarded once and that I managed well right from the start...
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olki Faceplant

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| I found 2012 Faction for a reasonable price. It seems that they have a new kind of grip on the 2013 model. Has anyone tried both? Is the new one clearly better than the old?
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senorbueno Backside 180

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Posted: Jul 10, 2013 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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No the new one will not be clearly better.
Cheap wooden wakeskates generally "break" because the wood plys begin to separate (delaminate). I've never seen a 100$ board like the two you have mentioned last more than a handful of rides before they start separating.
It looks like you want the cheapest thing possible, so just get it... Have as much fun as you can. After it falls apart, and you are looking to get a board with some decent features (special grip is not a feature... wakeskates should come with skate grip) and will actually last more than a few sets come back here and ask again.
Or you can pay a little bit more, get something that will last you at least three times as long and you won't feel the need to have to upgrade a deck that rides better when you start improving.
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olki Faceplant

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Posted: Aug 01, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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The board arrived today and to my disappointment it was a bit crooked. Is this common among wakeskates? Does it affect a lot on the ride? When I put the board upside down on the floor one edge is about 1/2" higher than others.
I'd like to change the board for a straight one but it would be 2-3 more weeks waiting...
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder

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Posted: Aug 01, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| thats def not gunna be ridable...
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senorbueno Backside 180

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Posted: Aug 01, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| olki, that sucks bud, but you get what you pay for. I'm sure you could still ride it, 1/2" isn't very much. Could you take a picture to show what you're talking about?
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder

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Posted: Aug 01, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| u wont be able to cut properly and you will end up hating wakeskating because u feel like ucant even cut around... def not ridable. i had an oak warp on me, one of the first batches, and i couldnt even lipslide
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olki Faceplant

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Posted: Aug 02, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Now I actually turned the deck upside down on the floor and examined it more carefully. The 1/2" I said earlier was an estimate. The deck is crooked less than 1/2". I think I'll ride this board anyway, since I have a great chance to do it today and this weekend.
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olki Faceplant

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88skisupreme Backside 180


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Posted: Aug 02, 2013 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| You'll never notice the difference.
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overstreet31 Frontside 180

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Posted: Aug 02, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| senorbueno wrote: | ... Have as much fun as you can. After it falls apart, and you are looking to get a board with some decent features (special grip is not a feature... wakeskates should come with skate grip) and will actually last more than a few sets come back here and ask again.
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jdarr Frontside 180

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Posted: Aug 02, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| for your first board you won't be able to tell. Just ride get used to it and get a better one
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olki Faceplant

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Posted: Aug 05, 2013 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your answers. We had a great time. Even my relative who hasn't been into board sports did some nice cutting and I managed to pop ollie on first tries. I liked the feeling of sliding sideways in high speeds and i'm going to remove the fins for next time.
I tried to search but I didn't find any information how boards' shape affect on riding. Many boards seem to be quite edgy compared to my Savage which is quite round/oval shaped. What are the pros/cons of more round shape?
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senorbueno Backside 180

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Posted: Aug 05, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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olki,
Pros: Less likely to catch an edge, easier to slide it around the lip and flat water
Cons: More difficult to hold a strong edge when you need it (cutting in for a wake to wake)
It's fine to learn on a softer edge... it will just feel a lot looser. The more you ride, the more boards you can try out and see how strong of an edge you prefer
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