New vs. Integrity

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

sprocket america, no lol not the teams....all the wakeskaters need to boycott buying from NEW and only let them manufacture boards for companies...

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

Hey Sprocket...

Here is some advice...

Maybe you Should actually build some boards and sell them... Before you act like you know what the f--k your talking about.

You act like your some hot shot industry guy with years of manufacturing knowledge and business experience and making claims like you know whats up with every manufacturer / brand... and HOW it should be Done!

In all honesty your WAY over compensating for you lack of knowing anything... In fact you just might be the Era guy... by the way you make your case and act around here.

Why dont you actually create something instead of bashing other brands ... let you product do your talking for you!

But hey... That's just my opinion.

Side note ::: who edited my post? was it an admin?

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

oops...I typed Windsor but meant Era. Oh well. They both suck.

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

canalskater · Taco Bell Fa'Lyfe Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 649

sprocket america, Please stop flooding this forum with inaccurate information. The companies that New manufactures for do not all have the same shapes. I've ridden all of them and can tell you first hand, they are completely different. Your Goodwood is most likely not a production model, and Remote's shapes have changed since last year as well. New is operating on a much higher level than you so to make assumptions about their operation based on your experience with your short-lived company is ignorant.

Two years is a short amount of time to find wakeskating, start making boards, and "dial in" your shape. Maybe, criticizing established companies with much more experience and respect than you isn't the best way to help get your company off the ground. I'm probably out of my mind, but I think I'll trust the riders and respected members of the community who have been putting in time and work on R&D for years to produce quality products.

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 9:09 am Post subject:

i never said on bad thing...im stating what i have at my house in deck shapes...if you read all my post it stated i luv new and they are a great company ...ding dong...im not assuming anything....i know about the shapes ive brokein all of them and looked into the inside of the decks...so please dont tell me what i know...i resurch very hard and im sure non of you have ever pressed anything or even rode on something that you made and your tryin to tell me about things...please dont wast ur time...and ive never bashed anything...you people are nut's...just like to bash on someone that is doin somethng...make a trip to tallahassee florida and look at this operation and then tell me i dont know what im talking about...in fact just keep ridding you deck that you buy...and ill keep making mine...p.s like i stated befor...i luv all wood i would never bash it or any company that makes em because i konw how hard it is to do so....

labellethrasher · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 9:59 am Post subject:

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 10:12 am Post subject:

i know i spelled alot wrong but i was all pumped up and movin a lil to fast...sorry to all the grammar heads...

labellethrasher · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 10:38 am Post subject:

Hardly a grammar guy but I do notice the contraction of "you are" being mis-spelled as "your" instead of "you're" on here constantly.

I was laughing if your post was directed towards Schmaltz.

And Drew · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 11:02 am Post subject:

the internet is a very weird place

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 11:16 am Post subject:

funny right...lol...and yes the net is a place where people bash more then support....negative does not bother me...just shows the tru color's of poeple when u give them a way to voice there pea brain..

RC · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 1033

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10752 City: Jefferton

people don't just bash more than they support. Granted, nobody will ever please everyone--that's the nature of the beast. It's a fact that we are all mirrors for each other and you're going to get back a lot of what you give. If you're a dick or you cut people down, etc, expect people to respond the same way.

geissap · Pop Shuvit Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 142

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

geissap, You're pretty much on the right track.

Swartz owns integrity, Soy Escuala is Nick Taylor, and Electricsnow is Thomas Horrell.

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject:

ive never bashed any one...i solely stated how the decks we constructed...please understand i know my far share...i bought the devotid wakeskate manufacturing company a while back and i have a good amount of insite on the industry..rather it be from kevin from devotid or steven the o.g. owner of OAK ...these guys and me are all on great terms and they have givin me more insite to this industry in the last year then any of you could pray for(except thomas and the other guys who are still in the manufacturing part of this sport)...all im sayin is befor you treat someone like they are just some 18 year old kid pressin decks with dads car jack get to know a person and then understand they do know whats up....

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10752 City: Jefferton

Slapdown made a bunch of jokes--to clarify, I'm not thomas horrell, I'm just really into cassette. I just don't know how newbs are going to interpret that comment.

sprocket america, most people on here probably aren't going to get to know you. It's a fact. If you really care about pressing boards or whatever, how you portray yourself on here goes a long way. Maybe some people don't believe in that, and I can think of one person who's posted on this thread who might say otherwise with one sentence. I don't know what else to say...it's just some of your comments about how boards ride and whatever else that really doesn't make it seem like you have a lot of experience. Industry insight is one thing, but I think applicable knowledge and know-how is another thing all together. in the end, I think people want to see your boards.

geissap, not everyone is affiliated with a company but I think a lot of people on here have loyalties to the boards they ride. "scwartz" is erich schmaltz, the founder of mutiny freeboards, and now mutiny wakeskates and integrity wakeskates. soy is lemons, nick is nick taylor, blah blah blah. there are a number of "pro" riders on here that are affiliated with various companies, or people who work closely with certain brands. As to how to get a truly honest answer, it's hard to say. The one thing I would say is that any current team rider for integrity and mutiny rides the product because they WANT to ride it. I'm not saying that means it's the right board for everyone, but I think those guys can articulate why they ride what they ride (especially nick) and it might shed some light on the subject for you. It's been said a million times, but ultimately the best way to figure out what you like is to try out different boards. I know it can be hard if you don't know anyone else who rides, which makes finding some informed opinions more important when you're trying to find a board.

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

sprocket america,

The reason people treat you that way is because you defend yourself similar to how "some 18 year old kid pressin decks with dads car jack" would. I don't even know where to start with where you've gone wrong as a "company" trying to represent yourself on here. I guess, first of all, you have to let your products speak for you. As of now, you have no products besides maybe some hats, shirts, and shoes from your friend's shop (which is a mistake all on its own, on your part). Also, as a company, it is a bad BAD move to say anything at all about other companies or their products in your industry, unless it's a 100% inarguably good comment. You in particular should be especially careful about this, because again. You. Have. No. Product.

I could go on, but I guess what it would all boil down to is that you're unprofessional, and you have not released any boards. All we have to judge Sprocket America by is you and that other little bird that chimes in whenever the internet people pick on you too much. Your whiny defenses hurt you more than you could imagine. So my advice is this:

Keep quiet and work on your decks. Make damn sure they're good, and when you finally do give us something, be humble about it.

edit: I can't help but add that in your previous posts, you've implied that you know "more than [any of us] could pray for." That's not only most likely untrue, but it's condescending upon your target market. You put yourself on a pedastal. Get off of it.

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 16, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: