New vs. Integrity

416 · Backside 180 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 836 City: Toronto

why not both Laughing

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mojo · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 12:46 am Post subject:

didn't this year's mutiny's have a centrafused birch core? we all know bamboo is tits for boards be it long or wakeskate or wakeboard. i want a remote since they are made in usa and the shape seems to my liking, but integs/mutinys do feel very much like a wood skate and i feel no drag or the minimal amount ever on these decks.

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 8:02 am Post subject:

integs still ride low under the water line...thats why most integs riders ride at 22-24 mph.....remotes ride higher in the water line thats why u can chug along as slow as 18mph.....if you have ever tried to ride a integ. at 18 mph you know what im talking about....both are great decks but for the price of a integ ill just work out my ankles more and make them stronger for the uncentrafused wood deck....THAT I LUV....

thatwasrad · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 11:23 am Post subject:

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject:

you are the only person i have ever heard say they ride an integ. at 18-20....im not saying that your the only one who does...but most of the integ. riders i have hung out with like to ride there skates fast and if im pulling them aroung 18-20 they tell me to speed up because they are bogging down...and no i dont think your out to get me....its all good..im souly speaking from the one's ive towed...if im on a wood skate shaped wright and im goin 24....i feel like im flyin...thats all im sayin....and for hucking i skated on land for a while and i have never felt like i had huck a wakeskate...i think its more about pressure point and pop.....

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

I've actually never heard of an integrity bogging down in the water, unless things have changed a lot over the years. the last time I rode one, it was a 41" custom limited and it was smooth sailing and primo (I had him round the edges on it right away). if an integrity is going to "bog down" vs. how a remote rides, from what I've been told a lot of that is going to have to do with the edge profile and not the skate's material. I used to think it was board density and such, but it's really not.

as for weight and such, let it all be. It fully comes down to preference and comfort, and of course integrity's are different from a remote (which I think is one of the heavier wood concaves on the market). Let's get real, riders like ben and andrew kill it on remotes and I'd hardly say the huck their tricks. Similarly, nick is an amazing wakeskater and looks equally in control. The bottom line is thoes guys ride what works best for them, but I don't think anyone has shiznackle style because of board weight or whatever.

W · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject:

Not trying to derail thread, but has anyone ever tried to ride an actual skateboard deck on water? Is it possible?

thatwasrad · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject:

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

thomas horrell and scott jobe used a skateboard behind a boat.

fastgreens · Kickflip Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 3563 City: baytown

W, I gave it a shot a couple years ago, but could not get up on plane. guess the 90hp was not enough for my fat ass Laughing

mojo · Posted: Feb 11, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject:

I had to slow down a lot from my 42 legacy to ride my 40.25 simplex. It was fast

TYLER** · Posted: Feb 12, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject:

It's 2011, the Tolstoy came out in 2004? I still have one, and I still ride it, and it works. Worth the price tag? I'd say so.

My roomate has a 2006 TNT, we still ride it, it works. Also IMO worth the price tag.

in fact, I ride with a group of guys who arguably have the biggest selection of integs/mutinys on any given day, I will still pick one of those boards to ride over the newer ones on most days. I never really got used to the stiffer boards and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

geissap · Pop Shuvit Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 142

So to sum this up itd be a waste to get a wooden integ? If I want one, go all in with the centrifused core? Is there a big difference between the bamboo and birch when it comes to the centrifused boards? This sucks cause the two best graphics are the two wooden decks! Tnt's isn't to bad I suppose...might be time to throw down the 405 and be done!

Frye · Guest Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 3337

mojo · Posted: Feb 14, 2011 9:51 am Post subject:

Sounds like a 1st grader operation to me

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 15, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject:

the prosess of making new molds to make a differnt shap is a verry long and hard prosses...new has one dessign that they stick to its a sold press top (just like a bi level)and a solid 3 stage bottom (just like a bi level bottom)with 4 fillers on all there decks they make...i have at lease 2 of all of them...thanks deiter for the (goodwood)(sorry ass backwards on that ). and they are all made the same...for new to have a mold for every client is crazy....i have 2 master molds and they took for ever to dial in...just a lil tid.bit for you guy's....

mojo · Posted: Feb 15, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject:

sprocket, please explain to me why one would spend more on a remote than a new? do they use different woods, adhesives, rockers?

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 15, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject:

nope all the same .....i wouldnt....just buy a new and stick what ever sticker u want on it...for the price new is great....so if you like to destroy decks on crete ledges and such get a 160 new...if you like to hit nice trek rails get a integ...lmao.....im just a wood guy thats all...ride what ever u like under ur feet....

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

sprocket america, nooo....support the riders/teams you all look up to and one day wish to be in their shoes

how would you like to ride for a team and have everyone go buy the board straight from the factory for 100 cheaper instead of getting your pro model etc.

This is why it upsets me that NEW MANUFACTURING sells to the public....you should need a storefront or business license/resell license to order from them.

sprocket america · Posted: Feb 15, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject:

i agree logik but what can we doo....tell all the teams...remote..goodwood..slash to boy cot them...i mean even with me sellin my decks at 200$ shipped they are killin me...so im right there with you on that..