New vs. Integrity

brassmonkey · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject:

geissap, My opinion doesn't really matter cause it's what you like the feel of. My first "real" wakeskate was an Integrity and I really really liked it. Still pretty down with the feel for them, however that was when you could pick one up for 300 bonesish. After I started riding wood decks I have a hard time adjusting back to the composite cause it's so different and I like wood concaves. But soy escuala is right about some of the issues with wood, they can get water logged if you don't break them before you've had it forever, but that's why they are less expensive. Just don't let that shít chill out under the sun on your lawn when you get home and it should't warp. Try out some stuff see what you like blah blah. This thread will go on for approximately 15-25 pages give or take. Just bored and felt like responding.
Oh and if you do have a local board shop that sells independent company decks, definitely try to support that. Happy shred shred.

knox · Kickflip Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville

WERDna · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 541

WERDna · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 541

But Soy certainly needs to ease it back hes preaching integrity as if its the word of god...

I can tell you integrity is not perfect. no board is, and i hope none will be, because i hope this fact will continue to motivate new companies to start up, and want to come out with the next better board, so their will be continual diversity in the art form that is wakeskating. I hope that the day will never come that integrity or whatever board company there is that has convinced the wakeskate community that their boards are "perfection" because it will destroy the sport.

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

^^ yeah what he said!

mojo · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject:

i love how integrity's ride, but i can't ride them well. same goes for wood. i like the feel more than others, but for some reason i can't ride em well. having never ridden a new i can't comment. i would say either one will work just fine, but you might find that you love the integrity shape/ride and not need another one for years and years. however, with any wood skate you'll need to take extra care of it and get a new one sooner as others have mentioned.

Ro$$ · Faceplant Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 36 City: Lake Tapps

werdna, just so i understand what your saying, an object in mid-air with strategically placed weight (like a heavier core) would take a different amount of force to initiate a rotation than an object with evenly distributed weight of the same size, shape, and mass?

mojo · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject:

forget all the complicatedness. go throw a backside shuv on a zariel and then on an integrity. insanely different amount of push needed with the zariel.

Ro$$ · Faceplant Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 36 City: Lake Tapps

mojo thats a separate issue, im talking about the physics involved once the board is in the air. the force needed to pop out of the water will most definitely vary from deck to deck.

WERDna · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 541

Ro$$

okay for the sake of the thread i can assure you the integrity and the new are not the same weight, size, shape, or have the same mass.

but to answer your question, yes.

because of the mass distribution of the board being emphasized at the 4 regions i clarified earlier, (the centra-fuse core looks like a maxipad, to give you a better idea), because of its narrowed width in the center and larger width at the corners the board allows its self to generate more torque (torque = Radius (distance) x force), allowing the board to flip quicker than a board with equally distributed weight. The board that has equally dristubted weight throughout the wakeskate and without a core is simply the same as a kite (but obviously not as drastic) allowing its self to provide its same surface area to work against its initial motion.

I can continue on with how the air resistance at 20+mph can effect the two boards differently as well. but ill save my self the time and energy

WERDna · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 541

mojo, yeah we are not going to get into buoyancy force because that is dependent on surface area, the temperature of the water, the materials used, theres too many variables.

TTUFAN24 · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject:

Ro$$, You need to take a physics class

Ro$$ · Faceplant Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 36 City: Lake Tapps

thanks for the science chat, very interesting concepts. Its obvious that integrity has put a lot a of thought into their board design. Respect.

fastgreens · Kickflip Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 3563 City: baytown

they're just god damn wakeskates Twisted Evil

buy both of them Exclamation

wakeskate sml · Frontside 180 Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 251

which board is easier to get up on?

LakeLife · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject:

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

i think what the kid was getting at was that it doesnt matter what board you ride, as long as you put your time in and then you could even tre flip a 2x4. but tech is always good to have giving you the extra edge and that ride you want

mojo · Posted: Feb 09, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject:

logik's logic is skewed when it pertains to business. he really shouldn't even be allowed on the internet since he thinks nobody should be allowed to sell stuff on here if it can be sold at a brick and morter store. i do agree new should just be a factory at this point, but they don't seem to be in high production. aacadia says takes up to 60 days to ship remotes and i haven't seen them anywhere else since 2011 stuff came out. i also don't like how all the decks have the same waist size for different lengths. anyways, not all business models are created equal.