I want to hear some real opinions...

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

I just re-read this thread because i can't sleep, and all i have to say is:

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

And to anyone hating on bilevel style. Please watch Danny's part in Narla. Specifically the black and white footage that was mostly in the Alla Prima trailer. And even more specifically his flats kickflip. That clip along with the others will contradict pretty much everything bad about bilevels.

That being said, i will acknowledge that they are not for everyone (or even most people, for that matter).

Evan71 · Posted: May 03, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject:

Slapdown, and even more specifically aaron reed

Jay Bird · Posted: May 03, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject:

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

Evan71, Don't get me wrong. Aaron's style is sick but it didn't change as much on the bi's in my opinion as Danny's did.

Andy K. · Ollie Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 64 City: Germany

I'm interested in your opinion about asymmetrical wakeskates!!
(Especially Nick's opinion.)

Sorry if we had that before.

BB · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 1706

Andy K., Do not like Confused

eviltweak · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 839 City: Nor Cal

Andy K., IMO they are pointless.
A skateboard is asym because some tricks you need more or less leverage or you need more or less of a nose for the trick but on a wakeskate your not sliding your foot around for things like an ollie and a wakeskate does not spin a lot while its still on the water before it pops so it makes no sense, with the acception of a bi level where the bottom deck is sym and the top is not to give it a more skateboard feel.

canalskater · Taco Bell Fa'Lyfe Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 649

eviltweak, some people like to have a nose and tail on their board. even the slightest change in the width or a board will change the way it rides completely. A narrower tail can be pushed deeper into the water when you ollie and allow for more pop. 3 shuv an a-sym board and you will know why there are people who like them.

bmosing · Posted: May 16, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject:

canalskater, coudlnt you also argue that a wider tail is more surface area acting on the water and therefore creating more pop? we need to call in mythbusters lol Crazy Eyes

eviltweak · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 839 City: Nor Cal

canalskater, its all personal preference i'm not saying they're bad i just prefer to not have a nose and tail, to each his own.

zip · Backside 180 Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 752 City: Sydney

wakemitch · Posted: May 17, 2010 10:56 am Post subject:

Andy K., i think its in consistent and annoying. i like both ends the exact same

nick · Posted: May 17, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject:

Andy K., I don't think I've ever ridden one Mad

I'm a little bit OCD and I always like to do tricks with the tail in the back and the nose in the front haha

I can imagine an asymmetrical wakeskate would be fun for someone who's stoked on them and it fits their mindset/vision of wakeskating, but it could be useless and irritating for someone who isn't into it...

I think the show Mythbusters is slanted and fixed and one-sided and stupid Laughing

Andy K. · Ollie Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 64 City: Germany

caprice150 · Backside 180 Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 593

isn't the 42 sst asym?

Raven · Posted: May 18, 2010 10:55 am Post subject:

thomas horrell was probably makin babies the day he came up with the design for the first ever assymetrical wakeskate. the assymetrical cassette 4 trac in 2003 is probably the most progressive wakeskate ever crafted.

if you have ever been or seen an airplane u may notice that the nose is blunt and thick, and the tail is light and narrow. just as my beak is blunt and my tail feathers lightly ruffled.

this is just my attempt to explain the basis of the flight parameters. as a bird i am fascinated with it and without it i am lost.

the heavy nose cuts the air and provides guidance to the rest of the deck. the tail is weighted slightly less so that it may maintain but not influence the track. the axis is assisted by the air rushing under the wide nose lifting the deck above and beyond.

for example when a (plane) takes off/ inside out ollie.......the nose lifts off first and the air gets up and under the nose and (wings) and lifts the aircraft/deck. touchdown is interesting as well as the tail touches down first as you would land an ollie or any trick for that matter.

look at the masters of flight in the natural world.........the eagle, the hummingbird, or Aaron Reed for that matter......

canalskater · Taco Bell Fa'Lyfe Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 649

bmosing, no because more surface area does not equal more pop. you generate pop by making a depression in the water and in one fluid motion boosting up and out of it, using it like a ramp. the deeper the depression, the bigger the ramp.

zip · Backside 180 Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 752 City: Sydney

Raven,

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

Raven, nice. That's actually one cool thing about the 4 trac (besides the fact that it's one of my all time favorite wakeskates). The nose and tail contours are asymmetrical. It's not just the outline of the deck.