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PostPosted: Mar 13, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: how to secure rail in ground Reply with quote

so basically the ground in the pond is very hard. how do you recommend i sink them? would it be better to just build little a-frames with long bases and just put weight to hold it down? any help would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mar 13, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use 2x4s and sledge hammer them into the ground works great for me, just make sure you make them have a point at the bottom of the 2x4 so it goes in the ground easy.
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PostPosted: Mar 13, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right now i am thinking about attaching the 4x4's to a really long 2x6 on each end and in the middle and just putting cinder blocks on the 2x6 to hold it down. any thoughts on that?
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PostPosted: Mar 14, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will work but you will have to weight it down a lot cause it will float.
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PostPosted: Mar 14, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have access to a hose or a water pump of some kind. You can wash them in.
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PostPosted: Mar 14, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i don't. power washer yes, but i refuse to spend a ton of money on hoses to reach all the way out. i'd do it if i had to, but i am hoping the other option will work out.
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PostPosted: Mar 15, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much concrete should i use for weight? 16' long, 2' wide with a transition on one side. i was going to use 5gallon buckets of cement, but how many do you think it will take
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PostPosted: Mar 16, 2010 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when me and my buddy made a rail with wood supports we just used a bunch of sandbags.. probably 6 or them.. worked really good.
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PostPosted: Mar 17, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are 12 footers overkill? do you think a 5gallon bucket of cement on each leg(4 total) will be enough?
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PostPosted: Mar 18, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not trying to beat a dead horse or anything, but...just got 2 80lb bags of quickrete. how should i go about filling the 5 gallon buckets? directions for putting a post in ground are to put some dry conrete, then add concrete and water. im skeptical about how much mix to put in and how much water. couldn't i just put alot of conrete and mix it w/ water in the bucket and call it a day?
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PostPosted: Mar 18, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo, don't forget the post before the day is called Wink
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PostPosted: Mar 18, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fastgreens, i don't get it
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PostPosted: Mar 18, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i mean put the board in the bucket of concrete before it dries... or am i missing something?
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PostPosted: Mar 18, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was just going to secure the buckets to the 4x4's, not mount the posts in the buckets.
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