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kyle Backside 180


Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1015 City: ft. lauderdale/tampa
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: Oakley Wakeskate Move of the Year VIDEO |
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http://wakeboardingmag.com/features/2009/10/01/videos-oakleys-2009-moves-of-the-year/
It's the second video and . I honestly don't know how they selected a winner. I'm not going to spoil it but the winning move was definitely deserving but I thought there was another trick that I don't see being done by another rider for a very very long time. |
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knox Kickflip


Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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This has already been posted, but it is unbelievable the level of progression going on in wakeskating. |
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kyle Backside 180


Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1015 City: ft. lauderdale/tampa
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Oh well in that case, Reed Hansen's BS 5 was the craziest thing I have ever seen. That is a hard enough trick to do on a wakeboard let alone a wakeskate. Matt Manzari's trick was really awesome, and it was incredible how he was able to get such good pop off the rail but the BS 5 is a new dimension. Being that James Balzer can do them on the wakeboard along with Aaron Reed and Brian Grubb, I would say they have a chance at landing it. Nick Taylor is a really good spinner as well but still I don't see it happening for a long time. The BS 5 to me is like Tony Hawks 9 difficulty wise. |
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kyle, I guess you haven't gotten the memo that wake to wake riding in wakeskating is lame.
I keed, I keed. I think it's a very tough category to judge because every year there are some amazing hammers that represent different facets of wakeskating and it's so hard to judge it. I remember two years ago part of the debate between danny's wake to wake bigger spin vs stu's was the direction they were spinning because some people argued that it's harder to finish out a frontside biggerspin, blah blah blah. Plus then it's like wake to wake stuff vs. tech flip tricks, gaps and whatever else is in the mix.
Anyway, I think almost all of it is madness, but I really dug ben's back tail back big. _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com* |
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knox Kickflip


Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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kyle, I think a couple of people could land that trick if they cared to try it enough. I don't want TOTY for wakeskating to turn into what it is for wakeboarding, add a 180 and you got it. 2 years in a row the winner has been someone who could spin more (frontside 1260, backside 1080). I think wakeskating is capable of being more technical than that. Some of the other tricks nominated, including the winner, represented that side of wakeskating much better in my opinion. Andy P's front big heel, Ben Horan's back tail back big out, and Manzari's 270 flip out blew my mind, and it felt more like skateboarding. Not to say that a back 5 isn't hard, I'm sure it's unbelievably difficult. However, I like to see skateboarding on water, not wakeboarding in shoes. |
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daniel Back Big
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 3669 City: Duncan
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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electricsnow wrote: | Anyway, I think almost all of it is madness, but I really dug ben's back tail back big. |
my favorite. |
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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daniel wrote: | electricsnow wrote: | Anyway, I think almost all of it is madness, but I really dug ben's back tail back big. |
my favorite. | YES!
so good. especially concidering how big of a deal aaron reed's back tail was and even his second one a few years later was still a big deal. add a back big to that with Ben's style and DAMN. shíts hot!
but manzari's trick was so damn tech. he has some serious control of that skate and deserved the win. |
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mufinman98 Frontside 180

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 453 City: Palm City
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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i like how 3 of them are shots from were just skiing haha _________________
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A lot of of used to skateboard, but we are afraid of concrete so we quit and splash around in the water with each other and play marco polo in between sets. |
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TWG Kickflip

Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Kid wrote: | kyle, I think a couple of people could land that trick if they cared to try it enough. I don't want TOTY for wakeskating to turn into what it is for wakeboarding, add a 180 and you got it. 2 years in a row the winner has been someone who could spin more (frontside 1260, backside 1080). I think wakeskating is capable of being more technical than that. Some of the other tricks nominated, including the winner, represented that side of wakeskating much better in my opinion. Andy P's front big heel, Ben Horan's back tail back big out, and Manzari's 270 flip out blew my mind, and it felt more like skateboarding. Not to say that a back 5 isn't hard, I'm sure it's unbelievably difficult. However, I like to see skateboarding on water, not wakeboarding in shoes. |
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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wakemitch, my thoughts exactly. I was recently thinking about adrift and the pioneering those guys (riders and everyone) did with that project...and like that year just seemed like it was aaron's year, because he had some really cool ads, one of which had a backside noseblunt and that just blew my mind. Anyway, my point is that original back tail was a big deal, and then this past year guys like nick and ben did those like they were nothing, and the variations on top of it all were sick.
the kid, don't forget that flip trick advancement does adhere to the "adding another 180" for progression, ex. kickflip, varial flip, 360 flip, blah blah blah. Rotations are added on to everything and it is rewarded. It's at that point where style ranks super high in my mind. I really don't care to see a rider do a 360 flip or whatever if it's mobbed and crappy looking. Also, the backside 540 does come from skateboarding...
but I understand where you're coming from otherwise. _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com* |
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Classy Classified

Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 2624 City: Kooksville
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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electricsnow, I think he was refering the the super tech street style skating, not all aspects of skatboarding...
you cant pick apart someones post and then say you "...under where you're coming from otherwise" thats like trying to say eff you in a p.c. manner...it just doesnt work. _________________ 10101 |
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Hayden R Frontside 180


Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Posts: 340
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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GOD 10 years you gon need to land a 900 tripleheelflip late underflip to be professional  _________________ yo |
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mufinman98 Frontside 180

Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 453 City: Palm City
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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i think the kid that landed dark side in wer just skiing deserved it haha
just cuz i peed alittle when i saw it  _________________
tad wrote: |
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Classy, I understand he's referring to tech street skateboarding. But acting like the "mathematical" aspect of spinning is a wakeboarding thing is lame. it's everywhere. Furthermore, I just find it disappointing that almost anything wake to wake in wakeskating is considered to be "wakeboardy" when a lot more credit should be paid than that. There are wakeskaters that have been killing it wake to wake for years, but it took how long to land a backside 5. Any flip trick by one of the crowd favorite wakeskaters is quickly worshiped, but anything wake to wake is quickly put down and deemed "not that difficult."
But by all means, continue to say that I'm being an internet bully or telling people in between the lines to "eff off" or whatever. _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com* |
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fastgreens Kickflip


Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 3563 City: baytown
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Posted: Jan 09, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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W2W ole 5 will set it off! _________________ north jones |
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waterdork88 Frontside 180

Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 426 City: Orlando
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Posted: Jan 10, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I was expecting to see a ts fs 7 on a wakeskate before a hs bs 5, because I've always considered the bs move subtract a 180 is generally harder... but thats just me. Which makes me think Reed's move is that much more amazing.
Everyone's moves were amazing, but for me Reed's backside 5 takes the cake. I actually enjoyed Matt's V-flip off the rail more than his backside flip off the rail. But that's just my 2 cents  |
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yookyle Backside 180


Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno
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Posted: Jan 10, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: |
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i thought the wakeboard move of the year was really cool. crazy shiv was being throwndown along with some wayy out of the ordinary stuff. seadoo rail what?!
plus i saw two of the moves i was there in person and there even more sick.
but for sure the wakeskate video has way more style |
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kyle Backside 180


Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1015 City: ft. lauderdale/tampa
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Posted: Jan 10, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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waterdork88, the toe 7 IS EASIER than the bs 5. That really is a remarkable trick to do on a wakeskate. The people on here that came from a wakeboarding background know how insane that trick is on a wakeskate. I hate the argument that it is a "wakeboarding" move and not skateboard like. Pros do spins all of the time most commonly grabbed bs 3's and they are steeeeeezy.
The boardslide to backside flip out is definitely cool but I don't think it was any harder than the guys doing flip tricks, big spins, and bs big spins down the gaps. The boardslide to backside flip wasn't a trick that Matt would go into his house after riding and say to himself "I can't believe I landed that, I never thought that was going to happen". Fact of the matter is, he is very comfortable doing flip tricks off rails so this really wasn't a stretch for him. I think the trick of the year should be something that is pushing the sport to a different level that it is at right now, and the BS 5 does just that, AND the fact that Reed did it and not a guy like Grubb who focuses solely on wake. Like I said earlier, I highly highly highly doubt that we will see a BS 5 hit by another rider for a long time. |
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kyle Backside 180


Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1015 City: ft. lauderdale/tampa
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Posted: Jan 10, 2010 11:07 am Post subject: |
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yookyle wrote: | i thought the wakeboard move of the year was really cool. crazy shiv was being throwndown along with some wayy out of the ordinary stuff. seadoo rail what?!
plus i saw two of the moves i was there in person and there even more sick.
but for sure the wakeskate video has way more style |
Coming from a skater/strapper, they are pretty equal on the style categories. I personally could not believe that many tricks went down on a wakeboard this year. Shane's first trick I think is the coolest looking thing out right now. It is so snowboardesque and fluid. Henshaw's hit on the C-Rail was insane, Sean O'Brien's nose grab osmosis 7 (arguably the techist thing i've seen on a wakeboard), Tom Fooshee's Pete 7, Brad Smeele's 20 foot step up gap, and Rathy's bs 10's were all just insane.
Basically, these were two AWESOME VIDEOS. |
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lllongneck Pop Shuvit

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Posted: Jan 10, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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electricsnow, you are right style is everything. |
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