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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Health Care Reply with quote

i am surprised there isnt a thread about this already.

what do you guys think about this new "plan"?

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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i disagree with it, it won't do anything but mess our nation up worse...
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because everyone being able to have access to affordable health care is a bad thing. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting thread.


http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=84804

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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TWG wrote:
because everyone being able to have access to affordable health care is a bad thing. Rolling Eyes


premiums are on the rise. if somebody cant afford insurance right now, and they need medical attention...they get charged out the ass. does that make any sense? at all? getting fined if you dont have insurance, i guess they are treating medical as driving insurance now. being a person that doesnt have insurance at the moment, i cant think of what would happen if i got in an accident, like a car, wakeskating, or whatever, i would be totally screwed. Confused

but on the brighter side, when i get into the navy, health care is goin to the tits. lasic foooorrrrrr freeeeeeeeee. Cool but thats down the road a bit.

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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TWG, you do realize that you pay for the uninsured anyways right? its called an emergency room, but instead of paying for something simple like antibiotics by the time it becomes an emergency the cost to the patient ie. the taxpayers is uaually 4 to 5X the normal amount if the person just had some form of insurance in the first place


i'd suggest people actually learn about the plan instead of saying what they hear on the news or at the dinner table with the family, i personally am in the process of reading a much much shorter version of the 1000 page bill that is in the senate right now, but hey maybe i'm jus weird Very Happy
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and also people to realize we are the ONLY non poverty nation in the WORLD, one more time IN THE WORLD that doesn't have uni health care, maybe everyone is retarded Rolling Eyes , or maybe just maybe its a great idea Question
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

triggamike, did you see the Rolling Eyes in my post? i think its a good idea.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that its silly we dont have universal health care. Its going to be expensive has hell though. Does anyone else feel like we are in Soviet Russia before the fall?
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The downfall with universal healthcare to my understanding and from friends i know that live in.. Canada for example... It takes months to get an xray or catscan etc. because the lists are so long its rediculous.... Or maybe i was just misinformed? Who knows
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

free health care brings out the hypochondriacs.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im goin to be a doctor and this is going to f@ck me over Mad
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gov't controlled health care, the public option, will lower the medical standards across the board. waiting at the doctor already sucks, wait til it is run like any gov't entity like the DMV. if i were allowed to address health care i would: pull the supreme laws in favor of health care companies, offer lesser premiums to those who work out on a regular basis, force ins. companies to allow procedures doctor's request for patients, unless that doc. has previous incidents, and some other stuff. one thing that would help cut costs is to secure our borders.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo, you can run healthcare in the wakeskating anarchy?
Because i agree completely.

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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crispy wrote:
The downfall with universal healthcare to my understanding and from friends i know that live in.. Canada for example... It takes months to get an xray or catscan etc. because the lists are so long its rediculous.... Or maybe i was just misinformed? Who knows


my dad had a off beat heart. was in the hospital next day.. received treatment that day out the next day.. everything fine...


my uncle had to get his prostate removed within two weeks was in for surgery.



That only bad thing about UHC is some people take advantage of it. or go in with a cold.


If you don't have medical priority your going to be waited a couple hours in emergency.




you guys are so brainwashed by media...
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy, see the new southpark? classic and true
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy, by you guys i would hope your not incuding me,i didnt base my opinion off of the media or any news for that matter. simply from what a few friends that live in canada have told me... But off your post you make it a more valid argument, i might actually throw in some time towards researching real facts and information... after my finals that is..
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the plans stupid. isnt the whole point of america to work for what you want? ( i understand health cares different) but we still get bascially free health care if you walk into an E.R with a gun shot wound you will get helped.
insurance agencies is a big market if theres only one = no competition= no $
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a feeling this thread would bring the lulz.
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