Wake Awards information and After Party details...

brassmonkey · Posted: Aug 22, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject:

Who were the judges and voters?

wattsbutter · Posted: Aug 22, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject:

hahahaha you guys are funny, no wait the funny thing is grubb would kill most of you guys so dont hate

daniel · Back Big Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 3669 City: Duncan

wattsbutter, none of us were nominees.

parm · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 1:48 am Post subject:

wattsbutter, Dood no one here is competing against grubb, and no one doubts his talent but most people are tired of seeing the same person win comps and awards for doing almost the same freakin tricks for the past 10 years when so there are so many more talented skaters out there doing way more impressive things.

zip · Backside 180 Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 752 City: Sydney

TWG · Kickflip Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258

wattsbutter · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 11:13 am Post subject:

i agree about the other skaters, but i dont see them with boat sponsors

wakemitch · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 11:21 am Post subject:

brassmonkey · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject:

wattsbutter · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject:

jetski all the way, but in these time getting a boat for free is nice

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

I mean how was andrew not rider of the year, he had 3 of the most crazy, wild and best full sections in a video this year.

Reed had how many?

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10752 City: Jefferton

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

electricsnow, its all politics and bs....one day we will beat the machine

if I wanted to do w2w 5's I would have started wakeboarding, andrew has pushed the sport of wakeskating so far into a new level its ridiculous. Andrew has brought so much new stuff to the table this year...whos doing more for our sport?

backboard frontside flip off a rail
back nose front 270 shuv
back nose backbig out
front nose back 270 shuv
backside flipped a gap
switch 360 bigged a gap
switch hardflip
switch frontbig heel
switch grape flip

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10752 City: Jefferton

Listen, it's about what people can appreciate. You can say that if you wanted to spin a 5 you would have wakeboarded, but spins are in EVERY board sport, including skateboarding, and it's not just a wakeboarding thing. But to cite a wakeboarding memory, I remember what a big deal it was for collin wright to figure out how to spin a backside 5 on a wakeboard...CONNECTED. So to think about how hard it is on a wakeskate is unbelieveable. In my mind, it's something to appreciate.

And honestly, I'm not even answering "who's doing more for our sport?" becuase I have a ton of respect for both andrew and reed. From the bottom of my heart, they're not only two of my current favorite riders, but they're two of the nicest wakeskaters I've ever met. Andrew has the rawest skate style of any wakeskater that's currently riding and I love it and so do lots of other people. Reed pushes himself in many different directions (including the late stuff that most of you are probably thinking of and hating on), but it's still skate influenced, be it spinning or making some of his more tech flip tricks consistent (bigspin kickflips, heelflip variations, etc.) And I don't even know if you care, but reed was working on bigspin heelfips a couple of years ago. Straight up, reed was one of the newer riders to give another push towards the fliptrick movement, and I hold riders like george daniels in the same category. (as much as people want to love or hate it? I love it, especially reed's section with nick in "in its travels.")

Heelflip? Frontside heelflip? Bigspin kickflips? fiznackling sick.

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

electricsnow, I use to respect reed a lot especially back in the day he had the right idea on where to push the sport. Lost a lot of respect when he told me he only films for 2 videos a year...I never said a 540 wasn't hard, just the fact that I don't want to see wakeskating head in that direction and understand that this is my opinion. Im sure a w2w frontflip on a wakeskate is really hard too, but do we want to see wakeskating head in that direction? If all spectators see are 540s and w2w shuv indys and finger flips are they going to take our sport seriously?

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

-LoGiK-, i see what you're saying, but i think that we should be stoked on things like frontflips and 5's. i'm pretty sure when skateboarders first landed those tricks they were really excited, why can't we be too?

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10752 City: Jefferton

I guess I don't understand why him saying he only films for 2 videos a year is an issue. Maybe it's more personal than anyone else could know. If he is wanting to put out more quality over quantity, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

And I think that's (opinions, interpretations) the whole issue: everyone has an idea for where they want to see wakeskating go, and I think some people have a hard time accepting that there are MANY facets of wakeskating. Is it a bad thing that some riders want to ride behind a boat more than they want to winch? I don't think so. The whole point of even riding in the first place is to do what's fun for you. If someone like reed wants to ride behind behind a boat and learn a wake to wake 3 shuv or a wake to wake backside 5, more power to him. If people like andrew want to look for spillways or what have you, that's sick too. But between the two, I don't think either direction is "wrong." I don't think doing backside 5s wake to wake is going to give people the wrong impression about wakeskating. I actually still don't understand why people think a wake to wake shuv of any kind gives a bad impression. People have been doing them for years, but that trick comes directly from skateboarding...as does the bs 5 and fingerflips. It's just that all of that stuff is vert oriented, and some of it is more dated (like the fingerflip).

Just to get your opinion, what kind of impression do you think backside 540s, wake to wake shuvs and finger flips leave to spectator, or why does it make wakeskating look "not serious"?

I just think people need to open their minds about wakeskating. Lots of people really respond to the street influence skateboarding brings to wakeskating, which is totally cool. But look at eric koston: he's even said the he wants to learn a 9 on vert. And mark gonzales can kill it anywhere, be it vert or street. Those dudes are pretty much the epitome of creativity, style and talent on a skateboard and they're also multi-dimensional.

Honestly, I'm sure some day someone will land an invert on a wakeskate, but I don't think that will ever be a staple of wakeskating (and honestly, it's not the first thing I want to see, either). But do you look at danny way backflipping that giant gap on the mega ramp and think that's lame? Or sluggo boyce doing a padless backflip out of a concret snake run years ago? (I've used that example a lot.) Granted, it's on a different level but it's still similar (ie wakeskaters looking at skateboarding for guidance).

stOAKed · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 1946

Didn't Stu land a w2w bs flip

wakemitch · Posted: Aug 23, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject:

electricsnow, i think logic is afraid of people coming into wakeskating with that go big or go home jock mentality.