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nopulseimpulse Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 07, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: Change? |
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I'm just curious as to what all you lefty's on here think of this BS. If this an early look into the Obama administration, i really want no part of it in my life.
Yall are gonna get your change, just not the change he told you.
Quote: | Judge drops charges in USS Cole bombing case
Reuters
Published: February 6, 2009
By Jane Sutton and Andrew Gray
The judge overseeing U.S. war crimes court at Guantanamo on Thursday dismissed the charges against a Saudi prisoner accused of plotting the bombing of the Navy warship USS Cole, the Pentagon said.
The move avoided a showdown between the U.S. military and President Barack Obama. It cancelled a hearing that had been set for Monday in the Guantanamo war crimes court, despite the fact Obama had ordered a freeze in proceedings there.
Susan Crawford, the retired judge who oversees the commissions, issued a ruling dismissing without prejudice all charges against Saudi national Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, said Pentagon spokesman Navy Commander J.D. Gordon.
Nashiri is accused of plotting the attack on the Cole that killed 17 U.S. sailors in the Yemeni port of Aden in 2000.
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The dismissal of the charges eliminates the need for Monday's hearing but al-Nashiri would remain in U.S. custody and could be recharged under the commissions system or a replacement drawn up by the Obama administration.
"It was (Crawford's) decision, and it reflects the fact that the president has issued an executive order which mandates that the military commissions be halted, pending the outcome of several comprehensive reviews of our detention operations at Guantanamo," Gordon said.
The White House said Obama would meet on Friday with families who lost loved ones in the Cole bombing and the September 11 attacks in order to discuss his plans for the Guantanamo.
The Guantanamo prison for terrorism suspects at the U.S. naval base on Cuba has been widely condemned by rights groups and foreign governments, including close allies of the United States, as failing to meet basic legal standards.
The Bush administration contended the jail was necessary to hold dangerous terrorism suspects and prevent them exploiting legal protection they would enjoy in the United States.
SHUTDOWN WITHIN A YEAR
As a presidential candidate, Obama promised to close the prison and one of his first acts in the White House was to sign an executive order to shut it down within a year and halt pending cases.
The freeze is to allow time to decide whether to scrap the special tribunals created by the Bush administration to try suspected terrorists outside the regular U.S. court system.
But the chief judge for the Guantanamo court, Army Colonel James Pohl, said the law underpinning the tribunals gives the presiding judges sole authority to delay cases.
He ruled that postponing Monday's arraignment would harm the public interest in a speedy trial.
Nashiri has been in U.S. custody since 2002 but was only charged late last year.
Some families of victims of the September 11 attacks have opposed Obama's decision to shut the prison and suspend military commissions.
"The President wants to talk with these families about resolving the issues involved with closing Guantanamo Bay while keeping the safety and security of the American people as his top priority," the White House said.
(Additional reporting by JoAnne Allen and Caren Bohen; editing by Chris Wilson)
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Cyclone268 Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 07, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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i dont think anyone wants to discuss kthxbai _________________ 941 |
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RxSkater Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 07, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Cyclone268, yea when i looked at this topic; my reaction was i honestly dont really care nopulseimpulse, bc what ever happens the world cant get worse than it already is _________________ So I looked at the clock and it's twenty past four
I want to smoke a joint that lasts forever
I want to drink a beer that never goes warm
Gets you drunk with no hangover
Twice a week I'll try to stay sober |
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waterweasel Faceplant

Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 35 City: Hickory
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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, it is the "I don’t care" mindset that got President Barack Hussein Obama elected into office.
When faced with tough issues, or things requiring some thought and understanding of the world/countries around you, people use the "It doesn’t matter to me" and "I don’t care" excuses as a sorry attempt to justify their own stupidity; stupidity due to the lack of wanting to educate yourself on current issues.
It is this same kind of mindset and series of similar excuses that will be used when Obama begins making the changes all of you so truly desired and longed for; changes that, just as in the case of Guantanamo and the USS Cole, you truly do not know about in the slightest.
So, all of you Obama supporters, may I encourage you to at least learn something for yourselves about the decisions your dear Commander and Chief is making. That way when someone questions you about current issues you do not come across as a total moron.
Even if you do spend the next four years being viewed as a total moron you are still going to have it pretty nice. The only “Change” you truly cared about from the beginning was increasing the amount of welfare and healthcare you were receiving, and do not fear that change is coming, and that truly is “Change We Can Believe In”. |
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edrex Backside 180


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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Stop talking. Hurts earballs. _________________
Jabbawokki wrote: | I thought that was a NorCal video...I guess their not the only ones that wear their trunks over their wetsuits. |
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dylo Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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nopulseimpulse, the USA has a lot worse things to be worrying about than a rogue terrorist who deserves a fair trail. its mindsets like yours the give the USA a bad reputation. |
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nopulseimpulse Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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RxSkater, sure it can. i just wanted to see how other people thought. i really don't post very much political bs, but i thought this one sorta struck home, since gitmo is only 300mi from us.
dylo, thats cool bra, i agree. i was just wonderin what ya'll thought. no worries. but... what do you think is a topic more important than this? i just want to get an outsiders view on this, as it may be untainted... _________________
Mr. Top Hat wrote: | dylo wrote: | how will you live with someones death on your conscious? |
one mans guilty conscious is another mans tally count |
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dylo Backside 180

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 1041 City: Melbourne/Breckenridge
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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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nopulseimpulse, you have more chance of dying in an avalanche than dying from a terrorist attack.
how about we start with these
USA LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH per year
Heart disease: 652,091
Cancer: 559,312
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 143,579
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 130,933
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 117,809
Diabetes: 75,119
Alzheimer's disease: 71,599
Influenza/Pneumonia: 63,001
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 43,901
Septicemia: 34,136 |
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nopulseimpulse Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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dylo, population control? jk. i hear ya.
Think of it this way... what incentives do the pharmaceutical companies have to cure all of these diseases? if they cured them there would be no cash flow into their banks. _________________
Mr. Top Hat wrote: | dylo wrote: | how will you live with someones death on your conscious? |
one mans guilty conscious is another mans tally count |
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dylo Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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and if there was no war the USA's biggest CEO's wouldnt be making the money that they are |
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nopulseimpulse Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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dylo, agreed, war is a huge money maker for the US. What does that have to do with heart diease though? _________________
Mr. Top Hat wrote: | dylo wrote: | how will you live with someones death on your conscious? |
one mans guilty conscious is another mans tally count |
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yookyle Backside 180


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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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dylo that was just terrible .It doesnt matter the chances of being killed its the fact innocent people died for no reason by other people. but im with you in that we have bigger stuff to deal with |
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dylo Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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yookyle, heart disease takes innocent people every year. disease has caused more heartbreak to families than terrorism ever will. |
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yookyle Backside 180


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Posted: Feb 08, 2009 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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dylo i smell what your stepping in. but do little people go into the persons heart and blow it up? at least most of the time the diseases are natural causes of death, not meaningless murder by some psycho. just saying man |
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dylo Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 09, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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yeah i totally understand where your coming from dude. but its the same as murder. USA has 10,000 murders a year or something rediculous and i dont see them spending the billions of dollars on that as they do terrorism.
someone needs to make a stand on tobacco. 1 in 2 smokers die from smoking related causes. 1.3 billion smokers worldwide. so that means 500 million people who smoke today will die from it. terrorism is not going to kill 500 million people in 1000 years. |
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skimboarder Backside 180


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Posted: Feb 09, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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dylo wrote: | nopulseimpulse, you have more chance of dying in an avalanche than dying from a terrorist attack.
how about we start with these
USA LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH per year
Heart disease: 652,091
Cancer: 559,312
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 143,579
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 130,933
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 117,809
Diabetes: 75,119
Alzheimer's disease: 71,599
Influenza/Pneumonia: 63,001
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 43,901
Septicemia: 34,136 |
that is all natural. a terrorist attack that takes any life is completely uncalled for and everything should be done to stop it. would you like another 9/11? oh it'd be okay though right, because tehre's still more people killed by diabetes every year. and your arguement about smoking has no basis. the people who smoke choose to smoke, the people who were in the towers on 9/11 didn't have a choice.
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 17488 City: yes
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Posted: Feb 09, 2009 2:49 am Post subject: |
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dylo, What does leading causes of death have ANYTHING to do with GUTMO Bay. All the things you mentioned trying to act smart are completly irrelivent to th OP's article. They are all natural, u cant really stop most of them besides heart disease, u can at least slightly pervent. I think the US should be concerned about saving even just 17 soliders if they could, letting a terrorist go... is just rediuclous. Change... what a freakin joke. Obama picked most of bush's former cabinet for his own... ya lots of change. So far all Mr. Obama has even proposed is releasing terrorist and giving away federal money and tax money fo-FREE. Hes just trying to create socialism, and if any of you have ever been in a terrorism class, you'd have read that terrosim orgininated from socialism. All starting with anarhcists when concerened withe the distribution of wealth. Universal Healthcare... boosted wellfare.... hmmm
I guess this woman maybe right... at least for poor, uneducated, and underprivilaged families.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
any way... Thank god for the 22nd amendment. I cant wait for all the ignorent people who voted for Obama so blindly to see the corruption and devisation he leaves the country in after his term, not to mention the massive lies he fed everyone to vote for him.  |
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dylo Backside 180

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Posted: Feb 09, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: |
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-=AlexXx=-, are you a complete fizzle idiot?
trying to act smart? you are a douche! another american who's ego is too big for their own head.
read the posts. i said the GUTMO bay shizzle is the least of your worries. then the OP said then what do we have to worry about? i then explained what needs to be looked at. you can stop them, ever heard of finding a cure? or are the research centres a complete waste of fizzle money?, hey why dont you just spend that on preventing terrorism?
this dude has been held for how many years without being convicted of anything? give him a fair trail, then put him away for the rest of his life. |
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JonnyBravo Backside 180

Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 756 City: Brisbane!!
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Posted: Feb 09, 2009 5:13 am Post subject: |
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I think we should all stop making uneducated opinions on these things. Media sources select and omit so much, that anything that you read or see is 9/10 complete BS or twisting the truth. Unless we have absolutely unbiased information, all of the shiz that is being said here is completely moot.
At any rate, what is the use for this, besides spreading anger over what someone has done, on the basis of little to no information. Go speak to barrak and im sure he will have a reason for u, but if u all wanna do is sit behind ur comp screens and talk BS, go ahead. its not gonna get u anywhere. But have fun none the less _________________
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