winch invention

[spowell]

kornhouse wins the race to give a good, serious suggestion

[JeffKnox]

[wakeboarderx03x]

Another simple fix for that would be just to think ahead and build a frame that wont rock back and forth. I.e. A rectangle shaped frame...

[Craig]

i have a pretty good winch invention, i cant believe no one has thought of it yet. too bad i cant share!!!!!

[JeffKnox]

Craig, hey you cant say much seeing as you "borrowed" my winch design for your last company

but i guess alot of other people have too and probably dont even know it

[Kay-Kay]

JeffKnox, It's an intro to design class. It's been pretty lame so far, mostly review material. My prof. didn't like the winch idea, he didn't see it as having enough commercial potential. So we're working on a disc brake lock holder for motorcycles.

Releasing spools definitely need work. Every time I've seen one it seemed like a big pain in the ass. It would be easy enough to make the frame smaller and lighter but you are limited by the engine and transmission.

[RedLine Whiine]

[Kay-Kay]

RedLine Whiine, well i'm already halfway through the quarter and the project is 30% done so I'm not really that worried about it. It's not so much that it wouldn't sell but that the market is so small. If I had a winch to use it on there might be more motivation to build something winch related, but choosing a simpler design that the professor approves of is a no-brainer. The class is called "intro to design".

[JeffKnox]

RedLine Whiine, yo where in jax are you riding? im from there .... do you ride with tyler or ben or ian?

[JeffKnox]

Kay-Kay, my releasing spool is pretty simple and easy.... but a wratheting system would be sick...

i take design 1 next semester.... then design 2 and then aero design.... im either going to do a winch related project or a wakebox related project.... so stoked to have full access to the machine shop and to have tons of funds to play around with lol

[Kay-Kay]

JeffKnox, it's not the pin design? I don't know if ratcheting is the best description of how a spool should work. I'm thinking fishing reel.

[JeffKnox]

Kay-Kay, same type of system.... ratchet, fishing reel, or multi gear bicycle .... how it engages in one direction and free wheels in the opposite.... ill work out a design later when im not busy working on my robot lol

i have to build a robot in design and manufacturing lab

but the pin design does work exceptionally well.... simple is often the best solution..... what problems are you having with the pin releasing spool?

[Kay-Kay]

JeffKnox, a bikes freewheel spin freely only in the same direction as the applied torque, not what you'd want on a winch. Same thing goes with a ratchet(unless you're thinking of having a switch to change the direction of spin). There was a long thread on bike freewheels being applied to spools. A fishing reel operates differently than a ratchet or freewheel and would be perfect for winching.

I don't have a winch or access to one but I have been around them occasionally and ridden behind them. From what I saw, replacing the pin was a two man job and I even saw the pin pop out at the beginning of some one's pull(probably operator error). Sometimes simpler is better and not dealing with a pin and just walking the rope out works fine most of the time anyways.

haha sweet. Battle bot?

anyways, apparently the teacher misunderstood our proposed design and the mounting bracket we were working on is too simple. I've now got to come up with a new idea

[JeffKnox]

Kay-Kay, what kind of winch were you using with a releasing spool? how was it a 2 man job? my winch is about as simple as it gets.... take the pin out, someone walks it out or swims it out since there is no tension in the line, when hes ready and the engine is warmed up put the pin back in...... and if you have the right pin its not going to come out.... ive never had a pin fly out on me.... the only thing i would improve is using a larger pin and a larger collar on the spool cause both are warping a little due to the force put on them

haha no not a battle bot.... we are just tasked to build a robot to complete a specific task ... once im done with the conceptual drawing ill post what im gonna build

[Cyclone268]

i was sitting in class today dazing off about an electric winch...and then i came to the realization that people with hydraulics on their cars usually put like 5 or 6 extra batteries in their cars to power the motors and pumps and stuff...so if you can make a car bounce surely that would be enough power to pull a rider? only real problem is that big heavy electric motor...

[Kay-Kay]

Cyclone268, why do you want an electric winch? Because it would be quieter? Seems like it would be very heavy unless you have a spot to plug it in. Not to mention, mixing watersports and high voltages seems like a bad idea.

[JeffKnox]

[Mr. Top Hat]

[mojo]

you could totally make a self usable winch. obviously the hard parts are starting, throttle control, and stopping. sounds like a job for the guys at never ride. you know how roomba vacuums have infrared "walls". something like that could be used for letting it know when to brake and cut the throttle when you get close. something with electronic throttle control might be needed for speed control. these are just ideas. use em if you like em.

[RedLine Whiine]