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LFArmada Backside 180


Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 631 City: tucson
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Posted: Jun 23, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: spool #1 = FAIL *update* |
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The result of a poorly designed spool and heavy deep water starts...
any ideas? I think im going to take out all of the conduit and just use the rim. Im also having some sidewalls made out of metal, no more cutting discs.
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sandiego4real Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 23, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Ya.I used cutting disc with just long bolts an it broke after a few pulls. I am using wood rite now till i get my aluminum spool made and it has at least 80 pulls on it an hasnt buged!
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LFArmada Backside 180


Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 631 City: tucson
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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what broke? the cutting discs or the spool?
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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what did you have under the conduit. I'm building a similar set up but am using just 5/8 inch bolts
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Rugrat Pop Shuvit


Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 210 City: So. Dak.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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sandiego4real, What broke on yours? Did the cutting discs just break?
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LFArmada Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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I didnt have anything going through the conduit. My first mistake was making a 10 inch wide spool. I think im going to just use the rim and make it 4 inches wide.
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DVSKATE Backside 180


Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 654 City: IL
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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i have the two hubs bolted together with cutting wheel disks on the sides and it has worked fine for a year.
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Rugrat Pop Shuvit


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thats good news because that is what i decided to go with.
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hus #1 Ollie

Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 71 City: UK
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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once that conduit was welded it became weak because of the heat
you could use the conduit over some 5/8 long bolts to stop the rope getting cut up on the threads
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Rugrat Pop Shuvit


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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What I did was used 3/8 inch threaded rod and found steel tubing that fit over it. Then i cut the threaded rod to 10 in. and the steel tubing 8 in. Giving you an 8 in. wide spool. Then i bolted the threaded rod with the steel tubing over it to a 12 in. cutting discs.
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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hus #1, the heat shouldn't have affected the spot that bent. if it bent closer to the weld I'd agree with you but I don't think the conduit was strong enough to begine with. What's the wall thickness on it??
Why are people using threaded rod instead of hexbolts with about an inch or two of threads on the end. Threading raises the cost of a bolt so much and without it you don't have to worry about wear on the rope.
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Rugrat Pop Shuvit


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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I ment 5/8 in. and the rope wont wear if you buy steel tubing to go around the threaded rod. I think either will work just fine though.
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Rugrat, true, tubing will prevent wear, but then you have to buy that tubing and pay extra for full threads.
While I'm not trying to build the cheapest winch possible I'd like to save a few bucks here and there as long as I'm not compromising too much on quality.
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sandiego4real Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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The cutting disc ripped, so the bolts were just hanging.
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LFArmada Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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The conduit was too week to begin with, Im just going to get rid of it all together.
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sandiego4real Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yea.Just get long bolts and cut out four 1inch tubing pieces.Than get nice side walls like aluminium or wood if you want. Than drill your holes and put the bolts through the side walls with the tubing over the bolts and in between. So then you have a very solid spool
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Soulprogression Backside 180

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Posted: Jun 25, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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this works real well
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

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Posted: Jun 25, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Soulprogression, that's fiznackling sweet. I couldn't even see the sidewalls at first. what sprocket do you have?
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cjbecker Backside 180


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Posted: Jun 25, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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and it depends where you tie the rope. To the axle or the spool
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DVSKATE Backside 180


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