ipod touch vs zune

ImSoWakested · Backside 180 Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 628 City: Madison

i read the thread about zune vs zen, but now they have a 32 gb touch and the zune may be updated too, im torn, the zune holds more, but cant browse the internet, and has worse battery life, im gonna be spending a significant amount of time this coming season on 4+ hour bus rides and need something to keep me entertained, any input is welcome

price.dan · Backside 180 Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1404 City: Regina

Ipod!!

I got an 8gb has tones of room for songs and its battery is amazing. I got it just before christmas and use it all the time and only have had to charge it 6 or 7 times. The battery probably last an average of 20+ hours.

ImSoWakested · Backside 180 Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 628 City: Madison

price.dan, hows the internet on it? and vid quality?

price.dan · Backside 180 Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1404 City: Regina

it's videos/pictures are pretty clear, i was amazed. I was use to my old ass original 5th generation ipod. I don't use the internet tho, so i wouldn't know. I think the 4gb is $150 and the 8gb is $200.

I don't know much about the Zune tho, so they might be still worth considering but you can't go wrong with an ipod.

dylo · Posted: May 31, 2008 2:48 am Post subject:

i didnt think there was a 4gb.. ive got a 16 and its amazing.. video is so clear and the internet is the shizzle. soo cool. i have so many third party apps on mine its not funny.

get one.

fastgreens · Kickflip Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 3563 City: baytown

ipod for sure

brassmonkey · Posted: May 31, 2008 9:27 am Post subject:

I've been through 3 ipods, they all kicked the bucket. I now rock a zune and have never had a problem. I still like the Ipod set up and the itunes software a lot better but I've got worry free tunes...

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 10:18 am Post subject:

Dispite my undieing repugnance toward all macintosh products, it pains me to say that I genuinely enjoy using my friends. You are able to log onto the internet when wi-fi is present, you can unlock it from the terribly shiznackle Mac system and then can load all sorts of games ranging from the original pong game to super mario brothers. The game list is endless, you just have to research it. Having a Touch screen has always frightened me because I seem do drop valueable things.... often. But this screen is VERY durable, WAY more so then it looks or seems. But i would suggest getting one of those screen covers, they arent expesive and will protect from scratching it, ex: car keys in your pocket or somthing to that effect. Its battery life seems nearly endless. The only time my friend charges it is when he hooks it to his computer to sync some songs onto it. I beleive one of the only down sides to the ipod touch is havnt to dreadfully install.... Itunes on to your PC. If you have Mac, then it doenst really matter, its already trash. But for PC users Itunes is like brining sand to the beach, its just dumb and uncalled for. I have played with a few zunes in my time and found them... very unsatisfactory. My one friends wasnt able to charge on its charger any longer, then it just broke and would turn off randomly, then it was just get staticy when it was playing.... It sadly turned me away from them. Another pro to the Ipod touch, the opperating system is accutaly really fast, compared to the old Ipod's and the new Ipod with videos and what not, there is no lag, its quick and painless. Id highly suggest the Ipod, This is probly the only time i will ever speak highly of Mac, so dont get used to it. I hate Mac and i wish some other company created the ipod touch. I still hate the Iphone though.

TannerC · Backside 180 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 1694 City: Nanaimo

I love my touch, so many 3rd party apps.
My screen is shattered and it still works fine, sucks for watching video now, but still doable, browsing the internet is awesome when wifi is around. I'm not exactly sure how i shattered my screen, I wasn't being careful for sure, the back is dented too.

NotSoBueno · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 1806 City: SoCal

-=AlexXx=- I'd just like to know how you really feel about Mac products in general.

Thank you.

Shocked

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 11:05 am Post subject:

NotSoBueno, ive posted many times on that topic.

NotSoBueno · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 1806 City: SoCal

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 11:33 am Post subject:

One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't:

Ever notice how most Mac users are skinny? It's because of all the calories they burn because they can't shut the fu<k up about how great their Macs are. What is it about Apple that makes its users unable to shut their mouths? Everywhere I go, there's another a$$hole with a Mac preaching about how much better Macs are than PCs. They regurgitate lines directly from Apple's marketing campaign, like "it just works." I have the following rebuttals to this argument:

1. If everything on a Mac just works, then why does a website called "Mac fix it" exist, a$$holes? Here are a few choice topics on macfixitforums.com:

-Login window stuck!
-lower caSe "S" key not working!!
-Menu bar keeps flashing
-I can't drag and drop!

Waaaah, boo hoo! I can't drag and drop! Dumba$$. Looks like your Macs aren't perfect after all, which leads me to my second point:

2. Fu<k you.

I don't know why Mac users get so defensive when you call them idiots. I mean, Apple is a company that has built its entire user base around the fact that its users can't do simple things like turn their computers on. Hell, most Mac users can't even talk without using their hands, which ranks their intelligence somewhere between a simian and hog shizzle:

See Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tq7yykR-DM

Stupid user base aside, I will never own a Mac. It's not so much that I'm a PC loyalist. I'm not. It's that I'm not stylish enough to own one. Most iPod commercials feature guys with long hair, chicks roller skating, and guys wearing fedoras. I have dandruff, and I buy most of my jeans from a grocery store. I feel like in order to have a Mac, I need to be:

An artist.
In a band.
Unemployed (see above).

After the recent Apple conference, Mac fans were elated. One person was quoted as saying "I've had a Macintosh now for a total of 35 days, and I'm really excited to be part of the Mac community." Part of the Mac community? It's a computer, not a social movement, a$$hole! I feel like Apple is not just selling computers, they're selling a way of life, and I'm not ready to be that heavily invested in a product. I think this parody helps illustrate Apple's unspoken message:

See Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixbzFjv_cU

iTunes is the new Real Player:

In doing research for this article, I decided to reinstall iTunes, a program I hadn't used since version 4 (now on 7). Here it is, just working:

Back in the late 90s, everyone used Real Player. Then those c0cks at Real Network got greedy, and tried to get their application to take over your entire PC, and people stopped using it. Same thing is happening with Quicktime now. You can't install Quicktime anymore unless you download bullsh!t iTunes. This section was supposed to be longer, but I couldn't even install iTunes so I could b!tch about it. Not that I could have used it for what I wanted to anyway:

If I want to manufacture biological weapons with my copy of iTunes, I will, fascists. Ditch this bullsh!t.

-Maddox

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 11:41 am Post subject:

The iPhone is a piece of shizzle, and
so is your face.

No, I'm not getting one because I already have a phone that's better: it's called the Nokia E70, it's the pinnacle of human achievement, and I love it more than my family:

You've probably never heard of the E70 because Nokia's marketing team is busy finding every last d!ck in the universe to suck, so I'm going to do their job for them and tell you about this product. And no, I'm not being paid to do this. I'm just tired of the iPhone fanboys shooting huge sticky wads and high-fiving each other (literally) over their stupid cellphones.

First of all, the E70 has a full keyboard, not some shiznackle stripped down, tap-and-pray smudgy piece of shizzle. Nokia uses a technology that's even more advanced than the iPhone's tap screen, allowing you to actually feel the keys you press as you're pressing them! The technology is called "tactile response," and it allows you to do things like dial a phone number without staring at your screen like a shizzle-chucking ape. In fact, every other cellphone ever made has this technology, sometimes called "buttons."

This keyboard will not only stomp your colon, but the colons of distant relatives of the human species such as lagomorphs, and hypothetical colons of children you haven't even had yet. Want to type a backslash? No problem. Ampersand? You bet your a$$. On an iPhone, you have to press an additional button that opens up an alternate keypad that will allow you to type numbers and punctuation. So typing something as simple as elipses (...) requires you to tap your finger 9 times. Enjoy your phone, losers! People like me who have shizzle to do will stick to a keyboard that doesn't have its lips wrapped firmly to the user-interface equivalent of a throbbing dong:

When the iPhone was first announced, CEO Steve Jobs spewed enough BS to cover a football field full of babies 3 feet deep in bullsh!t, which sounds cool because he could have potentially murdered a football field full of babies, but he passed on this opportunity by introducing the phone instead. He claimed that the phone was three devices in one: an iPod, a phone, and an "Internet communications device." Oooh, an Internet communications device?! AWESOME!

It's not three devices in one any more than my laptop is you morons. Using Jobs' loose definition of what constitutes a separate device, technically my laptop can be considered 8 devices in one:

A clock
A calculator
An "Internet communications device"
A phone (I can make voice calls with my modem)
A pornographic media storage device
A video player
A word processor
And an "iPod" (see below)

There's no such thing as an iPod. The word "iPod" is a marketing tool for a hard drive with software that plays mp3s. Yeah, doesn't sound so sexy now, does it you chimps? And an "internet communications device" is officially the douchebaggiest way of saying "it has a browser." So actually it's just a phone that plays mp3s and has a browser. SNORE.

-Maddox

NotSoBueno · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 1806 City: SoCal

LOL. That is some funny stuff.

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject:

The Mac Book... Air... Sucks

All that, and not even to mention Macs "GREATEST" new invention.... The Mac Book air... excuse me i have to go change my pants.... i got to excited. not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ERgZ9dztk&feature=related

Ya it fits in a freakin envelope... but why in gods good name would you ever conceal your 1800 dollar lap top in a flimsy little evelope, thats just dumb. As long as it fits in my back pack, shouldnt that be all that matters?

One thing that REALLY bothers me about the Macbook Air is that it does NOT have a CD/DVD drive. That is seperate... yes i repeat seperate. So along with my evelope, i have to carry around my pack pack to lug around the external CD drive... dumba$$'s... And the saddest part, im sure most people thing this is some kind of revelutionary deal, WOOOW its so thin it doenst even have a CD drive.... Dell came out with this concept YEARS ago, and realized it was a absoultly terrible idea, notice how Dells COME with CD drives now, acctualy attached to their computer.. Although, most people buy macs for their style and fashion is they probly will just carry it around and use it in star bucks to browse their myspace so a CD rom is just not necceasry. People who accutaly work with computers find this sensless. Here are a few more reasons the MBA (MacBook Air) Sucks.

80GB iPod hard drive being used as a system drive. It's 4200 RPM slow and after years of encouraging people to amass a horde of digital media, how can Apple really expect people to fit their iTunes library, digital videos and so on onto 80GB? With notebook hard drive capacities topping 500GB in a single 2.5" drive, surely Apple's customers would have preferred a slightly thicker form factor with a beefier drive?

Non-expandable memory: 2GB of RAM soldered onto the motherboard... sure, that's a lot of RAM today, but if I were buying a notebook worth nearly 2 grand, I'd sure as hell want the ability to add some extra RAM in later to cater for future Mac OS X upgrades, virtualisation and memory hungry apps like the Adobe suite. (To be fair, other subnotebooks also have soldered RAM, and sometimes have only 1GB, but still... looking at this from the perspective of someone looking for a thinner, lighter MacBook Pro, this is a significant limitation.)

One USB port: not only is the MacBook Air expansion-limited on the inside, it can't connect to many things at once on the outside, unless, of course, you carry a USB hub with you, which kinda defeats the purpose of having an ultraportable notebook to begin with. And since it's a recessed design (a flap on the side of the notebook has to pop open for you to access the port), quite a few USB accessories aren't going to be able to plug in there without the use of a USB extension cord.

No wireless broadband: if anyone's going to buy this notebook, it's the regular traveller who is tired of toting 3KG of extra cabin baggage everywhere. These people are also exactly the same people who find wireless broadband really, really useful. But despite the fact that HSDPA modules can be manufactured as small as a postage stamp, Apple didn't include one. Guess what you'll be using that one USB port for? A soap-on-a-rope style wireless broadband dongle, or a fat broadband stick. It's not a very elegant accompaniment to the world's thinnest notebook.

Underpowered, last-gen processor: despite Apple claiming the MacBook Air has the 'latest' processor in it, it's actually a slow old 65nm version of the Core 2 Duo, topping out at 1.8GHz. Presumably Apple's legal eagles would argue that since Intel made a special version of the processor that has a smaller chip casing than others, it is literally using the "latest" release from Intel. But in this case, "latest" certainly doesn't mean "better".

No microphone port: sure, it's not the most essential feature given the proliferation of USB microphones, but again, I'll point out: one ... USB ... port.

Non-replaceable battery: you have to send the entire notebook back to Apple for replacement of the battery. Which will have attrocious battery life within about two years. Note to Steve Jobs: this is not an iPod.

Thin but not that thin: Steve Jobs says the MacBook Air is thinner at its thickest point than competing notebooks. But the Fujitsu Q2010 is only 19.9mm thick at its thickest point, and that's 0.5mm -- yes half a millimetre -- thicker. However, in the Lifebook, you get integrated HSDPA/3G/GPRS, an ExpressCard slot (34/54), SD card slot, two USB ports, inbuilt VGA out, Ethernet, Firewire, fingerprint sensor. I'd say that functionality is worth an extra half millimetre.

Oh, and no Ethernet port: yeah, OK, you can order the optional USB Ethernet adaptor, but that one time your router stops working wirelessly and you really need to log in via Ethernet to fix the configuration... hope you've got that USB adaptor with you.

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*Nate · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1230 City: Nokomis

I love my itouch. Things the shizzle imo, I got some kid to jailbreak it so I can download anything really. My only complaint is that it scratches pretty easily. Get a case for it if you get the touch.

ImSoWakested · Backside 180 Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 628 City: Madison

Lousy Hero, -=AlexXx=-, TannerC, so can you still get online when your not in a wifi hotspot, or do you have to connect to a network, for example if i was in a bus could i still get online, and with the whole jailbreaking or whatever it is you have to do to get 3rd party apps, doesnt that void the warrenty or something like that?

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 31, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

ImSoWakested, not 100% sure aobut the warrenty thing.. but you probly wont have problems with it, and the 3rd party apps are a MUSt have. For the interent u have to have like a free wifi place, like mcdonalds or starbux, not sure if they have it on busses lol...