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		JonnyBravo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Vid editing software | 
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				I was just wondering, for when i get home and get some more footage, what people use for video editing software on a PC. I really really want multiple, transitional picture in picture's. Like i would like to get about 14 videos running in the one frame that can be used like a transition to move about and such (it may sound cluttered and everything but the way i want to do it, hopefully will look good). Ive been researching into vid editing programs and liek the most video overlays i can find is like 4 or 5 or somethin. 
 
 
I wanted something that i could edit the shape of the picture in picture (like say a rounded square or a a rectangle at like 75% which follows the contours of an object in another video) and also apply a transition to that picture in picture, like change its hue and saturation and then be able to move that picture in picture to another spot. I dont mind how hard it is to use (as long as it doesnt mean learning a whole heap of code) cause im playing around with a trial version of a program at the moment, but all i can do is add a video, then put another video on top of that (and im limited to a square for that vid overlay, i want something i can rotate on axis and change the shape of that overlayed video) and i can move it around the other video, but this program only allows 1 vid + another vid on top.
 
 
 
I really want like 1 background vid (or picture) then like multiple vids over that which are individually editable and moveable. I can maybe possibly do it in macromedia (or adobe watever u wanna call it now) flash mx, but i have forgotten most of the action scripting and all.
 
 
Please help, I have some good ideas, i just need a program to back it up (and i know "get a mac" but i dont have the money to buy a whole new comp).
 
 
THanks
 
Jono
 
 
PS I think i asked the same question like 3 times but its hard to describe so i wanted to do it properly. _________________
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		mank the tank Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Adobe After Effects!!!! You can simple 3-point edit and create some awesome visualizations. Then get adobe premiere to put everything together......You can find all this stuff from bitlord.com and mininova.org | 
			 
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		soyelfuturo Frontside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				sony vegas _________________ You wakeskate? What why dont you wakeboard?
 
 
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		*Nate Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | soyelfuturo wrote: | 	 		  | sony vegas | 	  
 
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Or FinalCut Pro if you can afford it/find it to DL somewhere for free | 
			 
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		JonnyBravo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Lousy Hero, i thought finalcut was only for mac.
 
 
Do u rekon sony vegas can do what i need? Cause it looks like a pretty nice peice of software _________________
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		samcollett Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				vegas corporate edition is pretty nice.  i'd have final cut if i had a mac though. _________________ i am the bear jew | 
			 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| mank the tank, please don't condone pirating. rather stupid. | 
			 
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		joel Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I recommend using pinnacle studio 9 plus if you got windows and if you have editing experience, do not get the 10.0!!1!!!11!!one!!1! its more user friendly and has less features/effects. | 
			 
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		EJazzle faceplant
  
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				cloudeater, i have stuidio 11.2 plus and its amazing i like it better than premiere pro and  vegas put together....
 
 
JonnyBravo, i have vegas and i highly doubt that it can do 14 vids in one frame... i know you can probably do it with pinnacle just might take a little while.
 
i know that you can do picture in picture, chroma keying and cut a and crop a video
 
 
but for exactly what your gonna do which is pretty complicated. you would absolutely need to learn adobe after affects.. to get the full affect of what you are trying to create..
 
 
download a trial off adobe's website, and if you like it get it, you will have to spend some time learining that program though.... _________________
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		soyelfuturo Frontside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				ya deff if you have a mac .. get final cute.. but to tell you the truth i have been using sony vegas.. and its dope really fun to work with for small videos _________________ You wakeskate? What why dont you wakeboard?
 
 
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		scott a "a" is for angel
  
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		soyelfuturo Frontside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				scott a, thanks    i never even looked at it just saw video editing _________________ You wakeskate? What why dont you wakeboard?
 
 
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				 Posted: May 29, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		EJazzle faceplant
  
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				 Posted: May 30, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject:  | 
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				if you guys recomend a program. write which program and WHY you recomend it! and i suggest you read the very first post before you post... _________________
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		dylo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 30, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject:  | 
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				i use after effects..
 
havent used anything else..
 
some of the things u are talking about have tutorials on videocopilot.net | 
			 
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		JonnyBravo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 30, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Yeah i was thinkin i would probably have to use an adobe program of some sort EJazzle thanks dude, u really helped. And yeah i was lookin into pinnacle, but i heard that program had some nasty bugs, but that may have been just an earlier version.
 
I will probably end up getting adobe and figuring it out. Ugh, its a good program but sometimes they just make it too complicated for its own good  [/b][/quote] _________________
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		EJazzle faceplant
  
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				 Posted: May 31, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				JonnyBravo, no problem! i heard the same thing about the earilier versions of pinnacle, so i was very very skeptical. but once i got 11 and downloaded the patch it has been my favorite video editing program by far! i have never used final cut though.....
 
 
dont forget to download the trial BEFORE you spend $700. try after effects and premiere pro. but download them when you know you will have the time  to play around with them. it will take a little while but you will get used to it and LOVE it!!
 
 
 
 
oh yeah one more thing i love about pinnacle is the " backround rendering", pinnacle automatically starts rendering the video for you as you are still working on your project. when using Adobe you have to press "enter" and let the WHOLE timeline render before you do anything. its kind of a pain now that i'm used to backround rendering and not having to wait 4 hours for a video to render
 
 
 
good luck with whichever product you decide to purchase!!! and dont forget to post up your masterpiece so all of us can enjoy! _________________
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		JonnyBravo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: May 31, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				EJazzle, Thanks dude, yeah i really need a good program to render it nice. Funny thing is, im actually looking into flash at the moment to create all the animations, seeing as i still remember a fair bit more actionscripting than i thought i did. That and i found out i dont need to code that much. Still i need a program to edit footage, cut it to the length i want and render and all that jazz. O well i guess ill find this all out when i get back home and fiddle around with more than just a laptop.
 
And dont u worry ill be postin it up, just dont expect it for a bit, need to get a whole heap of new footage.....  .
 
Wish i could just post the video i already have in my brain though, its lookin nice up there lol    _________________
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		EJazzle faceplant
  
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				 Posted: Jun 01, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				JonnyBravo, flash is so sick! i wish i knew how to use it! never tried actually lol.
 
Pinnacle 11 is really good and easy to learn! i highly recommend it!
 
where do you live? i'll do some filming with ya!!
 
 
cant wait to see the finished product!!
 
 
just move those thoughts to your right pointer finger    _________________
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		JonnyBravo Backside 180
  
 
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				 Posted: Jun 02, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Lol ejaz, i would love for u to come down and film and be a part of it but you would have to fly down to australia lol. Im only in america right now to shred for a bit then watch the byerly toe jam (and sadly i dont have a vid camera while im over here). So i gotta film when i get home. And im gonna need A LOT of footage so you may not see anything for about 2 or so months, cause im gonna edit this all B E A U T I F U L. ANd plus using flash (its a strong program) but its really labourious work, sooo many little nit pickin things i gotta do.
 
But yeah if u come to AUS, def hit me up, we will get ya out and about (come in december but, its winter over there atm) _________________
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