Hyperlite

Josh · Posted: Jun 04, 2004 2:38 am Post subject:

I think you'll find a lot of it has to do with the 'heart' that companies such as Cassette and Integrity have, as opposed to the 'Hype' that Hyperlite wields.

sim · Pop Shuvit Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 219 City: Thorpe

years down the line, people will be having this conversation about a different company in the respect that cassette skates are so popular above other brands to people who know very little about the sport/industry, that they will buy a cassette without thinking, and then prade it around the lake as if they we're pro. it's just evoloution of the companies and the sport, which in turn brings more gumbies to clog up the waterways. It's happened with skateboarding, there are so many groms at skateparks, just getting in the way of actual skateboarders, rather than people who follow a trend. just do your own thing, and have fun. peace
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PhishBait · Faceplant Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 28 City: Beantown

Josh, I just don't see how Hyperlite has no heart. Like i said before they have supported the sport from the start and have Byerly and Grubb. Where's the lack of heart in that?

itch · Posted: Jun 04, 2004 11:28 am Post subject:

I have sat back for two pages laughing at most of the mis-information. First thing if you haven't been there from the start don't guess that you know what has went on in the past. If you weren't there ask before you speak on a subject you know half of. Thomas rode for Erich while he was proto typing wood decks, Now I don't know if Erich plunked down cash to help but I know the support was there because they both come from the heart. They ride and inovate from the heart for the sport, not for the cash that is a by product that keeps them going. It doesn't make them a lot of money enough to pay some bills and let them continue. Look at Erich this cat has struggled since the day he broke his neck on a wakeboarding road trip, the man has been through hell and he is a warrior for the development of the sport. Hell most of you would have given up after someone steals your company and screws you, not him, he fights back. Remember this guy works a regular job to support his company. If either make money its luck or kick downs from sponsers. Let me pre-face what I am going to say that I support the sport all the way around and I wouldn't be here unless Hype didn't put a major amount of its money into the development. BUT and that's a BIG BUT. Has Paul ever had to fight for something? Has he had to struggle to pay bills only to take a loss at the end of the fiscal year?
The hardest thing I speculate Paul has ever done was lose a dad to a jail sentence.
I started out on a h.o. hyperlite but thats all that was around almost 15 years ago.
The second board I bought was a Wake Tech, from that point on I have been Rider Owned.......
My heart bleeds the under-dog always has, now that I have alligned myself with the same I feel that I too make a difference in the industry. Just remember growth and change happen its the ones you see that bounce back from the heart that have the best intentions.
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K-dub · Pop Shuvit Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 121 City: nor-cal

itch, you go boy!!

I cannot believe how far some of you are reaching with some of the statements that have been made on this thread....I think a good dose of old wakeboard mags. would cure some of this b.s. slinging that is going on here. History people, HISTORY....if you don't know it, don't make it up...you make yourself sound like a fool!!

the bygone · Faceplant Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 26

PhishBait,

when you say that hyperlite has grubb and byerly and that somehow equates with HL having heart you fail to see 2 things. HL signed these riders because they could afford them and becasue HL can make a lot of cash from thoes two names. Seems like more profit then heart to me....

PhishBait · Faceplant Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 28 City: Beantown

the bygone, Bylerly has supported the sport more than any rider out there. There's events like the toe jam that show even if youre on a big company, theres no lack of heart. When Retrospect comes out, watch it and tell me the guy doesn't have heart. Even though there are different companies, all the guys ride WITH each other and have fun doing it. Watch Asterisk.

K-dub · Pop Shuvit Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 121 City: nor-cal

PhishBait, what does Byerly having heart have anything to do with Hyperlite??

wakeboarderdave87 · Faceplant Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 18 City: St. Thomas

How about we all just quit arguing about who started wakeskating? Lets just focus on pushing the limits of the sports and not running down all the companies. Like the guy said about the people in Asterisk, they dont give a crap about who rides what, they just are glad they are able to ride with each other and have fun doing what they love.

K-dub · Pop Shuvit Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 121 City: nor-cal

...and love getting PAID to do what they love....

You forgot that part. Laughing

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

If this was about who started wakeskating, then it's all wrong. Nobody mentioned jason messer...

itch · Posted: Jun 06, 2004 1:54 pm Post subject:

SNOW this was about phish complaining about the people who don't believe Hyperlite has a soul, he or she equates soul with the amount of money said comapany puts into the sport. He or she was questioning why so many people follow companys like Integrity or Cassette.
My best analogy would be a starving artist, they might be the best at what they do but a lesser talented artist with a benefactor will get over everytime.
itch

larymack · Faceplant Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 19

i think there's a hyperlite in every sport, like in mixed martial arts, they're like Gracie Jiu Jitsu, they're more commercial, but that's not bad, they have contributed a lot and help continue to push and set a benchmark and that is good for the sport. Also it doesnt mean they have less talent..So i think it's all good..i don't really get affected by a kid or what others call a "poser" riding a Gate or a top of the line Cassette or LF or even a 484 or Kampus or whatever...the thing is he's riding! And if you really want to feel soul, ride a home made! that's soul! Smile

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

Yes larrymac... but Gracie Jiu Jitsu was started by a respectable and world class champion. Hyperlite is Herb Obrien /Kent sports... i'd like to see good old herb wakeskate or even wakeboard...

nick · Posted: Jun 06, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject:

how old is he?

itch · Posted: Jun 06, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject:

RUSSIAN · Posted: Jun 06, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject:

Well said Erich

freerider4 · Backside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 2462

What is all the big fuss about who cares what kind of board or skate somebody rides it is there money.

larymack · Faceplant Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 19

The world class champion you're talking about Erich learned it from a Japanese champion my man...here's my take, it might be funny but...jiu jitsu has been around for centuries, Gracie's refined it and commercialized it and then revolutionized the world of mixed martial arts.

The same goes for Hyperlite. Horrell can be compared to the Japanese fighter, got it from wakeboarders (judokas), refined it then called it jiu jitsu (wakeskating), then Hyperlite (Brazilians) refined it again, commercialized it then spread it to whole world. Now what's wrong with that? Don't shoot the messenger...and then other companies show up like other MMA groups to, do they have no soul? maybe not soul but passion and love for the sport... Smile

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose