big companies

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: big companies

got a question about the big wakeskate manufacturers that make wooden boards. how do they really do it? like i was reading the kampus catalogue thing from like 05 i think and it was saying stuff about cold press and hot press. but what does that really mean? and im just not really sure how they make so many wooden boards... anything would be appreciated Very Happy

Poo · Guest

to make a wooden skate,, you lay a bunch of wood veneers in a press with the one with the graphic on the bottom. lay them one on top of the other with a glue inbetween each veneer. the press is curved so that when you take the glued veneers out, they are curved.

cold pressing means ou just press them at whatever temperature, heat pressing is applying heat to the press in order to make the glues stick better i beleive.

once thats done you cut out the shape and router the edges. on flat decks at least. on concave decks, you put a computerized drawing off the shape into what is called a CNC machine, which cuts out all the contours on tp making the concave. then you paint it and seal it and all that jazz.

Paul Saberton · Ollie Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 76 City: Toronto

kampas was my favority wakeskate company. I truely thought that they would be the leaders in the WS industry. Just goes to show you that really good product and amazing designs is not everything.
Too bad:(

Cold press is just that Cool. No heat is applied to the mold so no heat is curing the glue. Heat press is used for quick press time. Speeding up the processes of getting boards done is a fast and cheap manner. Once the veneers are cooled. you put the 16 ply or more onto a CNC milling machine. Using various bite. The goal is to cut a board in about 15mins. I personaly was cutting my boards in about 45mins because I did not have a fancy machine. The Rover CNC is the best for this I think. Thats the difference between cold and hot. TIME.

Tell ya what. I will see if vince is cool about shooting a video section on DURF how a wakeskate is made from the staring to the finishing. It takes time to make a wakeskate, but the end result is so worth the hard work.

Any more questions, I would love to anwser them to my best ability.
L8er

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject:

how big and expensive are the cnc machines?

Poo · Guest

I'm down. when?

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject:

o and any pictures of any of these machines?

jhilly8982 · Faceplant Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 31

very big and very expensive

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject:

ok lol

deepcove · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject:

what do you mean "your industry"

Paul Saberton · Ollie Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 76 City: Toronto

you can get CNC machines from 35,000 to 250,000. The machine I have is around 45,000 and does the job, but you can get the ROVER CNC machine for around 100,000 and WOW.

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

River WF · Posted: Oct 28, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject:

so pretty much all a wakeskate company needs is a big shizzle loan then a cnc machine. and poof?

lllongneck · Pop Shuvit Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 235

you dont need a cnc machine to make a good wooden wakesk8

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

lllongneck, Cool

River WF · Posted: Oct 29, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

lllongneck, i know that. but to have a company and produce a lot of skates i was saying

nickeleye · Faceplant Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 14

As for the temp... depends on the glues. Some glues require heat some do not.

The epoxy we use at work WILL NOT fully kick without heat. We press our boards at approx 170*.

But for some glues that do not require heat, like Pauly was saying it's a matter of time.

River WF · Posted: Oct 29, 2007 2:21 am Post subject:

nickeleye, and what company are you?

nickeleye · Faceplant Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 14

knox · Kickflip Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville

they have pics on integ-wake.com of the process