w2w going to become extinct?

Vance Collins · Guest

I was thinking today, and as more and more people get into wakeskating, particulary people that see some of the tour stops on t.v. (where they are only doing lip tricks behind the jetski), I see w2w pretty much not exsisiting any more. You won't see any w2w stuff this year on the tour. Whats your guys' thoughts on this?

alex · Pop Shuvit Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 153

i still think w2w is the bombass. you should check out Welcome. grubb has some really stylish w2w stuff that is pretty tight. he does some sweet backside shifty's,methods and threes and stuff, and he makes it look so stylie and sweet. i think stuff like from in that video would help refuel everyones lust for going w2w. i know i'll always be into those tricks.

wcwakeskater · Posted: May 09, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject:

i think people will get into the sport for the liptricks, but will also explore w2w stuff when they see it in videos

ollieshuvitz · Posted: May 09, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject:

I think that as wakeskating progresses into it's own legitament sport with it's own competetions, you'll see the competetive format switch to something similar to Byerly's Toe Jam. Basically, you'll have your w2w, jetski, and rail divisions. I don't think that w2w will ever be extinct, as for those of us that ride behind boats, the wake will always be there and we'll always use it.

galenone · Faceplant Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 36

w2w is the shiat. its by far my favourite part of skating cause it feels so dope and there is so much left to try and do. I think that any real rider will always have both fat surface and w2w tricks or else they are not complete as a rider therefore they are homoish. wrd to berger.

Phibius · Ollie Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 57 City: West Palm

There is no better feeling than a w2w on a wakeskate, you just can't explain it. Maybe its the no bindings or maybe the look of people faces when they see it for the first time....there is no way w2w becomes extinct, just because wakeskating is a different sport than boarding doesn't mean that we should pretend that the wake isn't there to use...there are so many opportunities to explore with it.

Parky · Guest

w2w will never be extinct thats for sure... but I know what your talking about vance.... theres 3 ways you can take wakeskating

1. Only do liptricks and say "im not turning this sporting into wakeboarding!"

2. Only w2w and say "Liptricks are boring I like to go big w2w"

3. Or you can compined the 2 and do abit of w2w and abit of liptricks (aaron reed style Cool

)

personally when I think about wakeskating and the tricks I want to learn in the future w2w isn't my priority (sp?) im more focused on my lip and flip tricks.. I want to learn w2w too but really I just want to learn to clear the wake and do some grabs thats all I really want to take my w2w tricks too... so to answer your question no it wont be extincted but it wont be something you'll see often

wakeskater16 · Faceplant Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 45

I've never been able to go w2w....but, today i was out followin our boat on my jetski and i kept jumpin the wakes on my jetski. I would jump the first wake and land on the downside of the 2nd wake. It made for really smooth landings!!! So i guess know i could say that i can go w2w, even if it is on my jetski.

numb · Posted: May 09, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject:

wake to wake will be like vert is to skateboarding and lip tricks and flats will be like street,,,either way they will always be around

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

wake to wake tricks of any kind take alot of skill and commitment, in my oppinion a wake to wake kickflip is almost like the grail of all tricks. Sure lip tricks can be really hard to and certain combos are crazy but so much wake to wake stuff takes alot of skil timming clear head thingking and commitment were as on a lip trick you can just sorta spin one way and hope not to catch an edge. I think the thing that bugs me the most about lip ticks is when people dont olie into them or if there spinning out or something dont ollie on that either. In my oppinion wich may mean shizzle to alot of you, you can only truly say youve done something when u have ollied in and out of it, surfaces spins shouldn't count. Take the standard lipslide everyone learns first, one combo wich people love is to spin bs 270 out. To me it looks like garbage when u just surface spin out. Not only that ollieng out of that increases the difficulty alot. Notice how that one ollie raises the level on that trick well just think of how ollineg off the wake for wake to wake tricks increases the difficulty. Wake to wake tricks will never die as long as we still have boats. Not only that to the casual observer they just look so much better. That why people like wakeboarding because they go really high in the air and flip its just attrctive to look at.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton

I agree with most others in that wake to wake will never die. Even if people don't see it on tv, if they get a wake dvd or they have a boat themselves, the will come to see that the option is there. And that's what wakeskating is all about--self expression and one's own interpretation on how to use the water. But the cool thing about wakeskating is that fun really isn't dependant on a huge wake. The average joe can have a blast wakeskating behind a seadoo, but they really won't have that much fun on a wakeboard (behind a seadoo) if they don't possess good, solid edging skills and wake schralping capabilities...

Besides, I'd be super bummed if wake to wake died because I'd never be able to say "gravity sucks!" with conviction...so I think it's time to wake the beast...dolla dolla bill, yall.

wakebadass · Pop Shuvit Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 130 City: McHenry

wake to wake is cooler lookin to someone that doesent know wakeskating, but a tech trick is uasualy harder, so there are good to both things, but there are so many people that just skate behind a sea doo, that wake to wake might get less popular, but it will always be there, if you ride behind a boat, your still gonna do wake to wake tricks there is no doubt about that.

Parky · Guest

im not sure w2w is still sick

kyle13 · Posted: May 10, 2004 4:50 pm Post subject:

As wakeskating progresses I think we will people stepping it up and going w2w on tricks that generally arent being done wake to wake. Kickflip to Indy and different flip trick and grab variations are already being experimented with, I think the future of wakeskating has got a lot to do with wake to wake.

gorath112 · Posted: May 10, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

I agree with catalyst and electricsnow, w2w takes balls plain and simple i think it ads a whole new spectrum to the sport because, i think alot of people seem to be sort "mimicking" and taking tricks that pros do and they think because pros can do them it must be hard and only focus on those tricks. do not get me wrong, lip tricks are cool, but watch thomas' part in SNAP, it just comes to the point where it seems like every thing he does is the same dam trick, but thats my opinion, but that is why i have so much respect for grubby because he does it all and he has very few weaknesses, i love popping shuv its and stuff but w2w has a lot more tricks to be mastered and invented, skate style tricks are also sweet like kickflips and stuff and those also add a whole new elemnt with rails too so either way i love doing it and the progression right now is insane

Parky · Guest

ok, heres my theory:

wouldn't you rather see a rider go out and stomp some big w2w stuff big it back with some bigspins and kickflips and go some nice liptricks....

I was just watching sfuatmo and my favorite section is danny hampson and aaron reeds section becuase they both do both some nice w2w stuff, bigspins and some flip tricks and some techy liptricks but on the other hand some times Im watching videos which is all liptricks, it gets boring watching a rider do a lipslide then lipslide shuv out, then a different shuv out then a 270 out then a shuv into one then a shuv to shuv out then a shuv to other kinda shuv out then a shuv to 270 out then a 270 shuv in shuv out and on and on..... you guys catch my drift?

heres a good post from scotta on wb.com

the pro tour isnt an accurate representation of what happens when people freeride. the cassette team is sponsored by sea doo as well as sessions, and grubb is sponsored by malibu. also look at byerly's recent comp (if you can call them that??), one of the three events was pulled by a sante. i dont think w2w is going to become extinct, but im sure there will be people who prefer lip/tech tricks to w2w tricks. on the other hand, people DO keep talking about "wakeskating becoming its own thing," so it will be interesting to see what happens in the future...

WCR · Pop Shuvit Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 160 City: K*Town

that will always be w2w i think

tribal · Posted: May 12, 2004 9:18 am Post subject:

Numb basically nailed it.W2W is like vert, lip tricks like street skating.That being said I could see a big push towards lip tricks like what has happened in skating over the years but vert [w2w] will never die.I think the younger kids will lean more toward's the lip tricks while the older cats like myself more w2w[just like skating].Don't get me wrong I still like and do lip tricks but nothing feels like a big commited w2w move.Definatly the gnarliest trick I've ever seen is Reed's w2w kickflip in Sfumato.Big method's are also sick.
I think big w2w is also what seperates[makes special] wakeskating from other bindingless board sports.You can go bigger on a wakeskate[air wise] than you can on a skate or surfboard.Superhero's doing huge gap jumps on their skate don't count I'm just talking the average joe rider.

wakesk8ordie · Posted: May 12, 2004 9:56 am Post subject:

I don't really like the comparison of wake to wakes on a wakeskate with vert skating. Yeah they both involve going big, but that is about the only similarity. To go skate vert most likely you are going to have to go seek out alternate terrain to skate on. The wake is always going to be behind a boat, and people are always going to jump it, I don't think there is any way that w2w tricks are going to go extinct. Yeah lip tricks are cool, but everybody likes to switch it up, and the wake is always going to be there waiting for you when you get bored with the tech stuff, its just a matter of taking a good cut at it.