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littleblightie Pop Shuvit

Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 133
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| What happens when you do a 180, 540 or similar? You end up going backwards on a completely one directional board... |
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kento911 Kickflip


Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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you got a good idea with the parabolic rail, but I think you need to cut a flat deck out in that profile and test it I think you'll find they are too pronounced and not long enough _________________ why dont you try playing hide and go Fvck yourself |
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Bakes5 Faceplant

Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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There is no doubt the design will need to be tweaked (assuming it even works as planned) in regard to rocker, radius for the parabolic rail, edge shaping, channel depth, etc...
I'm still not convinced the parabolic rail won't work since it works in so many other applications...then again it might totally suck.
As far as completely one directional I don't think that is the case. It is biased to go in one direction. The back has 2 fins and a fulcrum to boost the pop and the edging. The front has a single fin and no fulcrum...just like every other skate out there. You can still land a W2W 180 just fine...Once you hit the flats just do another 180 and then a varial and you are set up for another HS edge to the wake from the switch side.
Again, the reason for this board is to develop a purpose specific tool rather than something that is ok in everything but not exceptional in one. Sooner or later the equipment is going to specialize so that you ride one type of board for W2W and anther for the surface tricks.
Thanks for the replys
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pipo Backside 180

Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1214 City: 0172
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Didn't distortion use to have those fulcrum thingie |
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BRAZIL-CONCAVEwakeskates Pop Shuvit

Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 123 City: Belo Horizonte
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Bakes,
In my opinion the 2 fin setup would be bad, making the board act a lot like a wakeboard... unless they're used to lock nose/tail/crock/smith/feeble/blunt slides, but then they'd have to be moved further back, towards the midle of the deck. As you explained, the 180 problem does not exist...
My point is that I like to get in the water and just do whatever I feel like, no matter if that means lip tricks or w2w. Having to switch boards for so would suck... I like'em overall, but that's just my point anyway. I love to do lines mixing w2w and shuvs stuff.
Anyway... nice out side the box thinking... good luck on your boards!!! _________________ CONCAVE co.
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 559 City: can't pick just one
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| FYI parabolic water skis suck for edging. look at the shapes of performance water skis and wakeboards, no parabolic shapes. snow reacts alot differently then water. and snowboards and skis have a lot of flex to them when compard to a wakeboard, wakeskate, or water ski. Give it a shot, who knows maybe it would work, after 20 years of wakeboarding designing i think they may have thought of designing parabolic edges, and if it only improved the ride a little bit or they could make people think that it would improve the ride a little bit they would be seeling it. |
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kento911 Kickflip


Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Kay-Kay, the roam edges like a mother its a noodly snowboard for the water. . . parabolic rails work but in water you have to strike a carefull balance to prevent water from running over the tail this is especially important on a skate where water rushing over the tail hits your unattached foot, long very mild parabolic rails with a wider pad for ollies is my suggestion bakes, something like a k-39 with a tiny bit of dip in the rails
P.S. I disagree the wakeskate industry is consolidating to an all purpose design less specialization why have 3 boards (one for winching, one for wakeriding and one for flat riding) when you can have one. . . .
the Omen lol ok shamelss plug forgive me but I couldnt resist hahaha  _________________ why dont you try playing hide and go Fvck yourself |
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lake weir ocala FL Backside 180

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala
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Posted: Oct 06, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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i know you are looking for input...but if you are looking only to wake to wake stuff why not just wakeboard?  _________________ -Jordan Schwaller
LwC. Ride for Life. PAVT .. Since 06'
| Iamjesse wrote: | | wakeboarding is to wakeskating is like sex with a condom... it just feels better when you dont wrap up!!! |
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ripava82 Guest
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Posted: Oct 07, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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it seems like it would lessen the edging ability because there is less suface area on the water when edging progressively
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devotid Frontside 180


Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 473 City: saginaw
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Posted: Oct 07, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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parabolic edges are intended to be on a board that flexes (ski,snowboards). The curved edge, when flexed, is designed to turn back up the hill on an arc that increases the more the board/ ski is flexed. They are designed for a solid surface not water.
nice thinking though. maybe worth a try and just cut an old flat deck to the shape.
I made a flat deck similar to a k-39 with a little inward parabolic and it was a death machine _________________ Never, never, never, never give up
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RSixxr Faceplant

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 33 City: Cincinnati
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Posted: Oct 08, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| lake weir ocala FL wrote: | i know you are looking for input...but if you are looking only to wake to wake stuff why not just wakeboard?  |
I've never seen some one do a w2w kicky strapped onto a wakeboard...maybe he wants the w2w abilities of a wakeboard but with the freedom of a skate....just my opinion |
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