word on the street, Prt:1

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

O.k now in a attempt to bring Posotivity on here while I'm wasting time at work i thought I'de have a little talk with you, a challenge actually. Alot of you dont realize this but You are the word on the street. I am a firm believer that 90% of you dont believe what you preach, And i'm a firm believer that most of your Preach with out thinking. So here's the first part of my "sermon on the message boards" so to say.

What do yiou think of the following company's, I want the Good the Bad, Dont run anyone's name through the mud, But dont be a sheep eigther. If you dont know alot about the company say so, that will give Company's a better understanding on what they need to work on. Dont just come on here saying Integ owns and Hype sucks !!!! If thats what you think then tell me Why. Explain yourself.

O.k here's the Company's Itegrity, Hyperlight, LF, Oak, Omen, Sattelyte, and Distortion.

Traffic113 · Pop Shuvit Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 125 City: Kingston

Thats a good idea... Cool

StandUp · Faceplant Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 43 City: Austin

All i know is my LF tech 42 started to delam after the first ride...but some advice and spar urethane makes a nice ride Very Happy

oh yeah and my buddy let his oak start to come apart and it delammed pretty bad Evil or Very Mad

he just got the integ...so all in all i dont know anything about any of the companies haha Embarassed

OverEasy · Pop Shuvit Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 167 City: Richardson

OK, I'll play:

Integ:
My '05 Team has been awesome; still my personal fave among all the decks in our collective. Still looks like the day I took it out of the box & gripped it, although I have not hit any rails with it (yet). My buddy had some shipping issues getting his TNT 39.75; UPS damaging then losing the first shipment, etc. Schmaltz stayed in steady contact with him until he received the deck, and gave him lots o' free goodies cuz he had to wait. Very nice. So, top quality + great customer service = Integrity.

LF:
The shape of the Impulse is great; the variable rail shape gives you a great cutting edge, even without fins. But as most people here know, they tend to fall apart pretty fast. However, our '05 has been replaced for free twice (the last time with an '06). At least they are trying to make good with warranty's.

Oak:
Have two friends who have the 41" Prodigal; they are quite fond of them. Neither are showing signs of de-lamming. I like the shape & weight, but I have a tougher time getting it on edge than I do the integ or impulse, because the rails are pretty rounded off, and we all ride with no fins. My friends don't seem to have a problem, though; probably just me.

That's my two cents.

jordan · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 649 City: Spectre

I think cassette should be added to the list.

i<3wksk8 · Frontside 180 Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 262

Chris at Omen, good man. He knows soo much about wakeskates, boardsports in general. he put extreme amounts of time in designing the revolt. Bunches of hard work and money. A wakeskate company is a hard thing to do. I have heaps of respect for chris, and am sure omen will be around for awhile.

88skisupreme · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 1342 City: ATX

Itegrity, the name says it all

Hyperlight, lacking in innovation for how big of a company it is

LF, nice board shapes but piss poor construction, wouldn't spend a dime on one

Oak, nice guys from what I hear, not a fan of the current shapes but I hear the 07's have some different shapes

Omen, don't know much about them except that they are posting updates on here

Sattelyte, don't know anything about them except they sponsored Pirate so maybe they don't make the best decisions Laughing

JK

Distortion, also don't really know anything about them

What about Gator Boards?

I think Kampus and Cassette are in limbo right now.

mario c. · Guest

integ's are rock solid and originator of the all-around undestructable tuneable composite, omen and distortion are up next with super solid composites with cutting edge wood core technologie, satte and oak are rock solid wood boards with all the right specs, and far as liquid force goes, good designs with poor materials. now as far as hype, they support some of the best riders out there, and i must say, till this day, the 05 byerly is still one of the best boards i have ridden. kentnogoodcorpomonopoly or not. Wink

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

I really like your idea Pirate Smile

Heres what i got.

Integrity: I have only ridden an integrity a few times, it was a friends TNT 41" and at first, i didn't like it at all, i thought it was too squirrelly on the water and i never really felt comfortable on it. Then i was out riding with him and the Oak i was riding began breaking further, so the Integ was all i could ride. Suprisingly it felt really good, after getting used to it, it had really good pop and the pre-kicks felt really great on shifties and spins. The board spun SUPER easily so it took a while to get used to barely using any strength to throw shuvs/3 shuvs. I like it.

Hyperlite: I have tried the '06 Byerly with grip for only one run at TSR just to try it. I was really suprised at how much i liked it, all hyperlites have been thrashed pretty hard here on ws.com and i was expecting a piece of shizzle. It popped really well and the grip was REEEALLY grippy, which i liked. I also liked how the concave was very deep and the board was a very nice weight i thought. I also like it.

LF: Never ridden one. However i can say i don't support them for doing almost nothing to help the wakeskate industry (that i can think of).

Oak: The Oak Gege 42" was the second board i had ever ridden, and the only wood concave i have ever ridden. Its my friends board he is letting me borrow until i get my Omen it is my favorite ride and i am currently trying to fix it from delamming pretty badly. It spins nicely, and i like the pop. On this board just about everything i had tried became easier/improved. As far as how it is delamming... well like i said, it is my friends board and he breaks boards left and right, it had started before he gave it to me, and it only got worse.

Omen: I know Chris is a great guy. He puts an incredible amount of work into Omen and it seems like it's starting to pay off. However the delay on production, although not anyones fault, kind of threw everyone off a bit. They were supposed to start production June 1st, and are just now getting shipped to people, and i still haven't recieved my email to pay for my deck, and yes, i did say that out of my own anxiety, Chris said i should have my email by late last week or early this week so i'll give it a day or two more... However setting an unsure date for production is never a good idea.

Sattelyte: Never ridden them and don't know much about them at all.

Distortion: Although i don't ever hear anything about distortion boards, the design in their concaves looks great and i have really been wanting to try one out. I also know that they use a composite/wood core construction which is awesome.

(adding more)

Cassette: I have only ridden the Reed Bi-level. I didn't like it.. but.. maybe it's another thing like the integrity, i would have to get used to it. But from what i experienced, the pop was nice, but the board seemed to bounce around on the water a lot. It was incredibly heavy and spun slow.

Gator: '05 Graffiti 41" Pretty heavy deck but it tracks very well. The pop is really nice and the board is pretty wide which gave me a lot of foot-placement options and i liked that.

cfxomega · Frontside 180 Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 466

Cassette
Walkman 43", before concaves...it cost me $300 CAD...i loved that skate and still have it in pretty much brand new condition...learned W2W on it pretty solid, very slippery to ride without fins
Reed 41" Bi-level...this is my buddy's deck...first time I rode it, I loved it...only problem was that it was delaming and the board was absorbing water making it heavy...my favorite ride if the board would hold together...bottom deck was replaced by Cassette, but top-deck started delaming late last summer and my friend has yet to hear back anything after countless emails to Cassette

Liquid Force
Tech 42"...fun to ride, my first concave ride...this was my buddie's also...not bad without fins, good pop...delamed and board was replaced with the above mentioned bi-level by an online shop

Kampus
K39...loved it when I first got it and the price was right ($100 CAD)...learned shuvs on this board, but over time it has warped slightly and definately feels too short now after going back to my 43" a couple times...over the off-season, the board has been stripped of it's foam and has been modified with added high-density foam kicktails, resealing, gel-coating to add a little weight and grip...still a great ride, but a little more control with the kicktails now...edging is sometimes a pain with the zero sidecut...not bad finless, but i still prefer fins with all my skates

Hyperlite
The Gate...another buddy has this board and I tried it once...i disliked the ride as it rode too high and the edges were razors...felt difficult to pop and awkward with the kicktails...also seemed too big...would not recommmend, especially with the price tag that was attached to it

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

[quote="Slapdown"]

LF: Never ridden one. However i can say i don't support them for doing almost nothing to help the wakeskate industry (that i can think of).

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I strongly respect your statemnet even though I hole heartedly disagree. Liquid Force has given a home and put some money in the pockets of more wakeskters then any other company out there. Theyve Give a new home to riders that were the inovaters, and Have been many riders first stepping stone into the new era of wakeskating. Not only have they helped out in that way but How often do you see LF pools at a winch contest ??? Who do you think provides those ??

Again I respect your opinion but I do Disagree.

Nekkie · Posted: Jul 24, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject:

I agree with PIRATE on that one too, maybe they are putting out half made skates but they do a lot of stuff for the sport, even just by sponsoring the people we enjoy to see ride Very Happy

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

wakemitch · Posted: Jul 24, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

Integrity: I absolutely loved my 05 Team and my 06 TNT is even more amazing. The feel of the board makes it a comfortable ride and my feet dont get tired. I love the reshapeable edges because i like having sharp ends but have it round in the middle. The boards pop and spin great. I have no doubt that I could have ridden my 05 team for life and it wouldnt have any problems but the 1lbs more feels so good and i wanted to support nick. The owners of integrity definatley have their heads straight. Erich and Bobby are great guys and I will continue to support them. Ive ridden with bobby and he helped me a lot with my riding stance which has definitely made me a better wakeskater this year. And ive talked to erich in person and him and bobby have so much faith in their company, boards, and riders. (that better PIRATE?)

LF: I havent ridden one because Im afraid if i borrow my friends board I will break it. Smash

Ive seen a couple break and Ive heard of so many breaking really quick. They need to get their act together and build a higher quality product.

Hype: My first board was a scape 116. I bought way too big of a board but i still had a lot of fun on it. my board never warped or fell a part on me so i cant hate too much on it. The only problem was the size and that was my fault. I have never ridden any other hyperlite board. And i dont know why people say they dont care about the sport because the have obviously heard the complaint in the past about stuff like being too light and having razor edges and they fixed it. without hyperlite there would be a lot less people wakeskating. its a gateway drug...i mean board.

Cassette: I have never ridden one, but i just want to say this because of what has happened to a lot of people. They really need to step up on their quality and have not ever released a halfass product.
For the rest of the companies I have either not ridden them and/or know not much about the company.

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

scott a, I can understand people disagreeing with me but name calling really isn't necessary. Not to mention this is a thread trying to up the positivity over here.

Maybe my statement was uneducated, i was only speaking on behalf of what i, myself, have witnessed.

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

I'm stoked so many of you guys are riding but i lets here what you think of the company's as a whole also. I think its cool that were saying whats good about the boards but It helps the sport... When you say thinkg like Slapdown, saying he doesn't feel LF has done anything for the sport..... Or like wakemitch, who said he think bobby and erich are good dudes.

Still stoked to see something with some thought into it. Its funny how Un-Nazi esque like you all are when were lacking a few bad apples (of which i used to be.) Laughing

Reed, erich, bobby, Indefinete all you others post it. UTAH wHere you at ??

Nekkie · Posted: Jul 24, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject:

PIRATE, what the hell happened to you??? u used to rock these threads Afro

hehe

wakemitch · Posted: Jul 24, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject:

PIRATE, i fixed my post.

Vance Collins · Guest

Hmm I'll play. I really don't post anymore, but I'll give it a shot. Just short descriptions, if you want me to elaborate more than I will.

Integrity - Never did figure out how to ride a composite skate. Erich is a good guy from what I know.

Oak - Best wood concave thats available right now. Mikey T. is the man.

Cassette - Best wood concave EVER, just can't ever get another one.

Hyperlite - 2nd skate I ever had was an 04 Byerly, I learned on it, but did not progress until I got my 484 trac.

CWB - First skate I ever had, why? Because it was 50 bucks.

Sattylte - dont really know anything about them or there boards.

LF - Big huge fan of the a.reed 42, I like it better than my 484trac. Now if they could just get them to not fall apart.

Mr. Top Hat · Dead Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 5818

PIRATE, what do we think about the companies themselves or the boards they produce? this could almost be two threads, one about the companies from a buissiness perspective and one about their products.