I need Kent Sport Confirmation

sk8thewake69 · Posted: Apr 19, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject:

I heard they own Integrity 2.

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

[quote="BLaZe"]Bob Archer is the owner of kent sports and a huge investor in most of the companies. Im sure if you get to meet Jimmy Redmond and Tony Finn they will tell you they are the owners of Liquid Force, because why would a buisness owner talk about an investor. Herb O'Brien who owned HO/Hyperlite has now left that company and started a new company, but does that necessarilly mean he is still not involved with Jobe/J Star? In the press release about there new company it states that the company will be owned partially by the employee's, so does that make it a rider owned company?

I think it all runs a bit deeper than hearsay on an internet forum. I also think the people that know the full story regarding it would not be inclined to tell you and get into company politics just so you can be right to your little friends.[/quote]

Ok, I am sure it runs deeper than hearsay, that seems obvious. It seems odd that a company with such a monopoly would not have any press like esnow mentioned in her burton example.

As far as being right with my little friends. Yes that is very important to me. I liked to be believed when I speak with my friends. How bout you?

And as far as your above info, That is something more substantial than Willie Nelson Very Happy

Had I known the political and emotional trauma I caused by asking for some real data, I would have still asked the same question.

Luckily for me, I am a poser and this political crap really doesn't effect me. But I guess all these core indies are still scared of something. I have seen one person speak out here, actual a few.

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

[quote="sk8thewake69"]I heard they own Integrity 2.[/quote]

Think about the name of that company. And read the Mission Statement on your next visit.

Might shed some insight into something called Integrity. No pun inteneded.

And to think this all got started because I read that Integ was launching wakeboards and I tried to promote the company and product. Idea

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 19, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

First of all, Integrity(really people is it that f'in hard to type out the full name, have some respect) building wakeboards should not be that big of shock to anyone. Mr Schmaltz has been involved in this industry longer then many of you have been alive. He created the company Mutiny(twice) and certainly has the knowledge and background to produce really good decks. I dont see anything wrong with them stepping back into their roots and creating a qaulity wakeboard(I for one will buy one, and I have only wakeboarded one time in the last 3 years)..... rant over.....

As for kent sports, I honestly dont think its a good thing for one entity to be so vested in such a small industry. from what I understand archer has all or a part of HO/hyperlite/jobe, liqiud force, connoly/cwb, obrien and maybe more. those are the major players who are now all under one theoretical roof. IMHO that is not good for the industry as a whole

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

[quote="RUSSIAN"]First of all, Integrity(really people is it that f'in hard to type out the full name, have some respect) building wakeboards should not be that big of shock to anyone. Mr Schmaltz has been involved in this industry longer then many of you have been alive. He created the company Mutiny(twice) and certainly has the knowledge and background to produce really good decks. I dont see anything wrong with them stepping back into their roots and creating a qaulity wakeboard(I for one will buy one, and I have only wakeboarded one time in the last 3 years)..... rant over.....

As for kent sports, I honestly dont think its a good thing for one entity to be so vested in such a small industry. from what I understand archer has all or a part of HO/hyperlite/jobe, liqiud force, connoly/cwb, obrien and maybe more. those are the major players who are now all under one theoretical roof. IMHO that is not good for the industry as a whole[/quote]

Nobody has questioned any of those issues.

Agree.

In fact I agree with everything above.

senorbueno · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 1593

RUSSIAN, I agree and get all of what you are saying. For some reason I feel like getting a bit technical (and yes I know for a fact you know much more than me on the subject)... Schmaltz has said that "Integrity will never make a wakeboard" so with so much emphasis I assume that he views the Mutiny line and Integrity as two separate entities. Now I don't know how all of this will pan out, but I am very interested to see how the two lines will evolve into the future. I don't even wakeboard and I want to buy a Mutiny now (an Integrity too of course Very Happy

). Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 19, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject:

well your right, and Integrity is a manifestation of the last Mutiny(which was all wakeskates) and I believe(dont quote me on this) that Erich is re-creating the origanal mutiny line, with a newer flavor. So while the genious is the same it would appear that it will be two seperate entities(or something like that).

Erich, feel free to jump in if I am getting anything wrong or just to set the record straight

BLaZe · Faceplant Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 35 City: Perth

[quote="jacque_mehoff]

As far as being right with my little friends. Yes that is very important to me. I liked to be believed when I speak with my friends. How bout you?

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Yes of course i like to be believed but before i speak to my friends on a subject i like to know that i am right, so i find out the facts. Also i like to be able to back up my point before stating it as fact.

Also E-Snow not trying to prove you wrong but when i met Tony Finn his comment to us was that himself and Jimmy Redmond (who was with him at the time) where partener's in liquid force. Everyone around me at the time (completely unaware of all the Kent sports "monopoly") took it from the way he said it that they where the 2 owners in the company, because that was the way he implied it at the time.

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

[quote="BLaZe"][quote="jacque_mehoff]

As far as being right with my little friends. Yes that is very important to me. I liked to be believed when I speak with my friends. How bout you?

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Yes of course i like to be believed but before i speak to my friends on a subject i like to know that i am right, so i find out the facts. Also i like to be able to back up my point before stating it as fact.
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Damn good point. So, it seems that all these pages are not backed up then?

I figured this would be simple to verify.

So, I will return to my little friends with my tail tucked, and say it seems to be true but I can not verify it. So, in the end, I might be wrong. And sorry for misleading you.

I am mature enough at times to actually admit I made a mistake or had something incorrect.

But, I will thank you. You obviously are pretty well connected and your insight is very welcome.

I did not want to make this a real big issue, I was just expecting a link to a parent company with their subsids mentioned.

Not hatin bro, I just wanted to get my facts straight. And I think this should be put to rest like scotta mentioned earlier.

And for the public record. The only thing I have against MarioC is that he is from Detroit and they took our best defensemen named Chris Chelios. Otherwise he is GOOMBA in my book. Wink

deepcove · Posted: Apr 20, 2006 10:54 am Post subject:

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

[quote="deepcove"]

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

blaze, that could very well be. The impression I got was that he didn't want to bear the full burden of being a company owner.

Russian, don't forget that mutiny (the second time) was going to release some wakeboards. I bought a sample wakeskate from a rep, who basically repped mutiny because of the wakeboards (or the idea that there would eventually be some produced).

jaque, you'll always be a FIB in my book. Very Happy

Just kidding, just kidding.

jacque_mehoff · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 936

electricsnow,

I know I am a FIB. Wink

I remember the first time I heard that. Alpine summer of 89. LMAO for the entire weekend.

And you are, well you are ESNOW.

sk8thewake69 · Posted: Apr 21, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

wait so they own Integrity right?

Steven M · Posted: Apr 21, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject:

sk8thewake69, no, the "Kent Sports Monopoly" does NOT own Integrity.

sk8thewake69 · Posted: Apr 21, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:

oh well i know they own cassette and oak

matt1808 · Faceplant Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 16

jacque_mehoff, you're askin for proof that costs money.