winching

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

how much power does a winch need to have to be able to pull a rider...ive been looking at winches on ebay and i was wondering about how much you need for someone who weighs about 130-160 lbs?

BillyOLDS · Posted: Sep 22, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject:

how many have u found on ebay, cause if ur looking a 4x4 winches, they dont work, but about 7 hp will do the job, but of course it doesnt hurt to have more

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

yea i know 4x4s wont work but theres a 50cc one on there that looks like it might work....heres the page
http://cgi.ebay.com/Portable-Winch-NEW-Safety-Hooks-Capstan-type-Sling_W0QQitemZ6000682381QQcategoryZ66798QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bigpimpinalberta · Frontside 180 Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 291 City: P-town

dunno man u probly have to mod that baby. as for power i'm building one with a 6hp and dependin on the pulley/bearin system it should me more than enough pull.

integrity640 · Kickflip Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2866 City: Ocala

how much do they cost to build yourslef. hey ceck out classifieds. theres on for sale with 500 ft of rope for 1500

bigpimpinalberta · Frontside 180 Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 291 City: P-town

well they arent cheap to build but they are MUCH cheaper than buying one. engine cost me like $200 CAN. my dad has all the pulley and bearing stuff but those are expensive Exclamation

rope is rope just buy a nice handle for it all. square tubing isnt that bad. check the metal pile in a scrp yard
Peace

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

thye are much cheaper if you build a briggs/cetrifugal style. . . they are much more delicate too. . . . but buildinga really nice one cost just as much if not more that buying one would

ollieshuvitz · Posted: Sep 23, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject:

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

1. compared to any other design

2. the desgin of a centrifugal clutch is invariably less reliable than most opposing designs due to the fact that it is designed to slip which menas it is designed to wear out

Steven M · Posted: Sep 23, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject:

what other designs are there than the briggs and stratton/centrifugal and NeverRides "hive"?

unless im mistaken there are no other designs that we have heard of that work....

mario c. · Guest

I don't post here much but...ihave over 500posts
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Mr. Top Hat · Dead Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 5818

mario c., reading skills are handy

Scotty B · Pop Shuvit Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 183 City: Markham

buying a winch..... sounds sketchy what if a part breaks, then you have the problem of fixing somthing you did not build.... not fun. go out and build your own im doing it up in shop class this year.

Mr. Top Hat · Dead Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 5818

Scotty B, dude, theres already a scottyB on these forums. this is gonna get confusing as shizzle.

ollieshuvitz · Posted: Sep 23, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:

mario c., I joined over two years ago, I used to post alot when I first joined and there wasn't any BS. 15 Sep 2003

Kento. Hey this design works and there doesn't seem to be a problem getting parts if there is a need to. Also, have you used a centrifugal clutch winch? I haven't had any problems with it slipping. But, to each his own.

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

mario c.,. . . . . Chris41, has been here a whil ebut hes not a daily poster. . .hes OG and can pull the noob card on alot of yall. . . . nuff said

WaKeSk8er209, ok so you havent heard not my problem. . Im certainly not going to blab

Chris41,I think ideally the uhhh idea as it were is to not need to get parts. . there isnt a winch around thats old enough it should need parts. . .that is to say were is engineered with longevity in mind. . . .but thats strictly my opinion. . . .oh and to answer your question. . yes. . and deep waters are herky jerky and its rather slow for a fellow over saaaaaaaayyyyyyy ummmmmmmmmmm 175. . . but like you said to each his own

ollieshuvitz · Posted: Sep 24, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:

Kento, jw, but was it a "blackbox?"

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Chris41, actually. . . . no. . . . but JW whats the difference between a black box and a rewind as far as drivetrain is concerned b/c I see almost zero deviance from the Rewind formula in the BB. . btw a friend of mine had a BB for a while and he was impressed by how easy the parts were to get. . boy did he need alot of them

Edit: i forgot Rewind is 5hp and BB is like 6.5 as I recall but other than that any diffs?

ollieshuvitz · Posted: Sep 25, 2005 1:50 am Post subject:

Kento, BB copied my prototype ReWind. They came out when I was winching the pond and basically took pics of it. Several weeks later their's was for sale.

I have a 5 hp on my proto, all other ReWinds are 8hp now.

The "drive train" is the same EXCEPT BB uses common go kart parts, and ReWind uses parts of a better quality. I'm not at liberty to explain, so take my word for what it's worth.

I have only heard (not saying they're true) bad things about BB. I believe that is why you can see so many for sale in wake web forum's classified sections. To explain their rumored "sales," they have the only public winch on the market.

hoffmac · Faceplant Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 33

i would think centrifugal would be the way to go..the only thing that will wear out is the clutch lining...and that wont wear out for a while, as long as the clutch shoe sits in the clutch bell correctly.