integ landings

416 · Backside 180 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 836 City: Toronto

Hey doods, i jus wanna know some opinions... i got my tnt last year around this time and i loved it. greatest thing (after only having rode a sattelyte before this) So much pop, so sick. but since the season has started again i have realized that landings are super hard on it compared to other boards. I rode a byerly revival 42 all day today and i actually loved it. easy to land, fast and poppy.

long story short... im wondering if anyone else has problems with integ landings, and if you think it would be worth selling...

thanks guys

miller · Backside 180 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 2394 City: Regina

416, I don't have problems with integ landings but wood does tend to land softer.

cheapskate · Backside 180 Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 1424 City: Baytown

Waiting

henrification · Frontside 180 Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 280 City: 941

are you sure its not because the integs smaller?

416 · Backside 180 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 836 City: Toronto

yeah thats what i was wondering too, cuz its 38. im thinking ill jus buy a 40 or 41 concave

bob. · Posted: Mar 31, 2011 10:50 pm Post subject:

Integritys are instruments of precision Smash

RUSSIAN · Posted: Mar 31, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject:

416 · Backside 180 Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 836 City: Toronto

i was wondering the same RUSSIAN

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

It could be a lot of things, i would assume it has to do with the rocker shape more than anything else, with edge shape coming in a close second. I don't know much about the rocker on Integrity's but if the flat spot it larger it will create a more solid feeling when you land (among other things. rocker shapes definitely make some big changes). Edge shape effects how high the board rides in the water which would make it resist (even if only a little) how much it allows the water itself to soften your landing. From my experiences, Integs ride really high in the water, so it doesn't surprise me that landings wouldn't be too soft.

edit: fixed a misguided presumption about the density of a board effecting how it sits in the water, corrected by Seaman.

SEAMAN · Frontside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 388 City: Atlanta

Hey,
Just something I wanted to hit on. The density of the board, or buoyancy, is completely negligible for wakeskating. Once we are planing on the water, surface area, rocker, and rail outline are what make the board sit higher or lower in the water. The material or core of the board makes no difference on how the board rides as far as how fast or slow it is, or how high or low it is rides out of the water.

Randomhero14 · Frontside 180 Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Posts: 346

Nothing feels better than a super stomped landing on an integ!

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

SEAMAN, Fair enough. That certainly makes more sense than what i suggested and i know you have much more experience on the subject.

SEAMAN · Frontside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 388 City: Atlanta

Slapdown,
No you were right with pretty much everything. I didn't mean to come off as a know-it-all, there has just been some talk about the board materials and how that affects the ride. Like you and a lot of people have said, material makes a big difference, just not how the board is planing. I think its really important that everyone really think about board design, what type of materials do what, what changes in rocker and rail outline can do for a board, etc. It helps eliminate some of the BS that is claimed by companies.

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

SEAMAN, Oh absolutely. I completely agree. And you didn't come off as a know-it-all, so no worries on that. I was hesitant at first to even include density/bouyancy in my post because i wasn't entirely sure about it. I'm sure, had i thought about it some more i'd have ruled it out Idea

To add to his point, knowing what makes boards ride the way they do can definitely help you out of some unnecessary purchases. I've known people who searched for years with only a trial and error system to find the right board for them. I'm a curious guy and have always loved to learn about how things work and it's definitely been a big part of every board-buying and constructing decision i've ever made.

88skisupreme · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 1342 City: ATX

I think the fact that many manufacturers made their composite boards with sharper wakeboard-like shaped edges has added to the thought that composites ride higher than than wooden boards.

Maybe the landing on integs are harder since they pop so much bigger Smile

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

its because integs suck obviously...........sike

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

Just watch Aqua Frolics !!!
with the top down camera view...
and ask your self ?...why ? when Nick stomps his landing ... hardly any spray or chatter happening (bouncing nose) ... then compare that to the others riding on different boards... and notice extra spray and how much more they decelerate on their landings... and when that deceleration happens the divot created is harder to ride out of...
then watch our team vids and repeat the comparison.

= draw your own conclusion

SEAMAN · Frontside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 388 City: Atlanta

Amen!

senorbueno · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 1593

Gregeo · Guest

I bet it has to do something with the water being denser since the ice has just thawed....... I noticed you ar from Toronto. I notice landings on my integ are harder during the cold season...... Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about but it seems to make sense.

Schmaltz, I was convinced Nick was a robot you built up there in your Oregon lab ......