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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: The different types of wakeskates... | 
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				There should be a sticky on this. Essentially there's two types right? Wood like oak...
 
 
Then vinyl but don't all the vinyls have a wood core or no?
 
 
Then foam top vs. Grip? Those are the only two types right?
 
 
Like the integs have a wood core but there no actual wood surfaces right?
 
 
Then there's 9 ply birch and 9 ply xyz wood? Can anyone break the different types down into some easy chart-like description
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		Gnarly Dancer 42 360 flip
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject:  | 
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				there's flat decks, bi levels, and concaves
 
 
they can be made out of composite material, wood or both
 
 
you can use foam grip or skateboard grip, or both
 
 
 
 
im curious though, why do you want it organized?
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		88skisupreme Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I guess, there's all wood and there's composites.
 
 
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Thats not a question. Yeah unless you count shawk boots.
 
 
Like yeah.
 
 
There's all kinds of wood, someone can make a chart, They probably won't but they can.
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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I don't really care about the chart aspect. That's kinda what I'm looking for! Except like a 1-2 liner about each. I think it'd just be nice to have a sticky of FAQs to include this. If I had the knowledge I'd do it. What is composite? An example?
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		ZackFL(BRE) Backside 180
  
  
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		BB Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Gnarly Dancer 42 wrote: | 	 		  there's flat decks, bi levels, and concaves
 
 
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Does the SST count as a bi level?
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		RC Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				BB, people have different opinions. I would consider it to be.
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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | BB wrote: | 	 		   	  | Gnarly Dancer 42 wrote: | 	 		  there's flat decks, bi levels, and concaves
 
 
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Does the SST count as a bi level? | 	  
 
 
See this is more what I'm talking about. I kinda want like what each brand features. Like all the integs look like the same construction to me but I really don't understand the description based on the website. And all the integs look like there completely different construction compared to Oak which looks like a wooden wakeboard, vs. integ which well looks like a wakeboard. The boards are always just pictured from the bottom. On the other side of this integ for example is it a wooden looking surface or is it urethane/vinyl wrapped on the other side as well?
 
 
http://www.integrity-wake.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ws2010tnt38
 
 
Zach Yea I guess I understood what composite is but what would you consider that integ I just linked. Is it considered a composite to you or a wood? I'm having a tough time interpreting website descriptions I guess.
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		RC Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				geissap, its composite w/ a bamboo core. 
 
 
heres the concave on my lmtd and Simplex i used to have.
	
  
	 
	
	
		
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				integs are either composite, bamboo, or birch wood core w/ a pbt or duraserf material surrounds it. They all have urethane sidewalls, like skateboard wheels, which is the best thing ever. 
 
 
Wood decks are plys pressed into a deck like a skateboard, an then sealed to prevent water damage.
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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | RC wrote: | 	 		  integs are either composite, bamboo, or birch wood core w/ a pbt or duraserf material surrounds it. They all have urethane sidewalls, like skateboard wheels, which is the best thing ever on a wakeskate. 
 
 
Wood decks are plys pressed into a deck like a skateboard, an then sealed to prevent water damage. | 	  
 
 
SO why doesn't everyone just buy an integ? Integs are the only ones made like this? 
 
 
I guess it's the cost that's the drawback yes?
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		RC Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				geissap, possibly for some. But wood decks have a feel that integs do not and a lot of people prefer that over the integ feel. 
 
 
I personally prefer the feel and weight of an integ.   
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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | RC wrote: | 	 		  geissap, possibly for some. But wood decks have a feel that integs do not and a lot of people prefer that over the integ feel. 
 
 
I personally prefer the feel and weight of an integ.    | 	  
 
 
Which one's lighter? I'm guessing the wood right? Cause Integ's really aren't that much more then say a brand new Oak. And Integ's gotta last longer right?
 
 
What other companies build there boards like integ with the whole urethane type wrap?
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				integs are lighter..probably the lightest board ever made with the bamboo core.
 
and other composite companies are arson which use nylon base hypelite makes some composite boards to
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				(LEBOWSKI VOICE) Yes yes, you told brant, brant told me.
 
 
 
 
Just wana know one thing............. Are you under the impresion that a Vinyl, is made from Vinyl ?    
 
 
 
FYI;  
 
Oaks aren't made from oak, 
 
Satelytes are made from Sattilites,
 
Integs aren't made from Integrity,  
 
Hyperlites aren't neccesarily Hyper-Light,  
 
Liquid Force's are really forcfull
 
and if you buy a NEW today................................. next year it will be OLD.
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		Gnarly Dancer 42 360 flip
  
  
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		geissap Pop Shuvit
  
 
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				 Posted: Jul 12, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | PIRATE wrote: | 	 		  (LEBOWSKI VOICE) Yes yes, you told brant, brant told me.
 
 
 
 
Just wana know one thing............. Are you under the impresion that a Vinyl, is made from Vinyl ?    
 
 
 
FYI;  
 
Oaks aren't made from oak, 
 
Satelytes are made from Sattilites,
 
Integs aren't made from Integrity,  
 
Hyperlites aren't neccesarily Hyper-Light,  
 
Liquid Force's are really forcfull
 
and if you buy a NEW today................................. next year it will be OLD. | 	  
 
 
Cute...
 
 
No I knew it wasn't vinyl but I thought that vinyl represented a particular type of construction. Which I'm figuring out isn't the case. I understand what the word composite means, but the wikipedia link posted by Zach above is a waste of time. Composite just means two materials mashed together that doesn't really describe the composite material used in a wakeskate. That's kinda like saying my house is made of wood it's pretty general. It's all adding up though I'm starting see the different compositions now.
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		yookyle Backside 180
  
  
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				 Posted: Jul 13, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| wakeskates are made up alot of different materials theres really no black and white .
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				 Posted: Jul 13, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | PIRATE wrote: | 	 		  Satelytes are made from Sattilites,
 
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				 Posted: Jul 15, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Integrity Wakeskates are made out of recycled space shuttles.
 
 
geissap, Don't stop relentlessly asking questions until you are thoroughly satisfied with the knowledge you acquire, it's what I did when I got here and now I can answer almost any question about wakeskating... but lately instead of being useful and informational I've just been being really sarcastic          
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