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waterdork88 · Frontside 180 Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 426 City: Orlando

this is just my 2 cents Very Happy

i understand wakeskaters are more like a skateboards than wakeboards when it comes to doing tricks.but at the same time i see guys doing backflips and frontflips and other flip-like variations on skateboards and they get props when they do it, wheras a wakeskater gets laughed at. can anyone explain to me why?

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 02, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject:

to anyone that does flip tricks ona wakeskate out there. PROPS !!!!

Calskater23 · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1795 City: FRESNO

nick · Posted: Dec 02, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject:

In order to establish wakeskating as skateboarding based and to distance it from wakeboarding, these ideals are kept apart and doing flips and such is looked down upon still. Haven't really ever seen a legit flip on a wakeskate though.

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

Give me a scenario when flips are given props in skateboarding..

Wakeboards are made to do flips and such on. Wakeskates were made to break free from that and become more technical.

Basically, if you want to do flips and shizzle like that, go wakeboard.

Wakeskating is to Wakeboarding is what Skateboarding is to... ?

See my point?

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:02 am Post subject:

i love you evan

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

Danny way's backflip rocket air? Sluggo Boyce's padless backflips at a concrete park, circa 1998? People didn't harsh those dudes for doing that stuff (along with bob burnquist and sluggo doing backflips on a half pipe). Would you consider tony hawk's early frontside 540s (rodeo flips) to be inverts? However, I'd conceed in that backflips and whatever other inverts there were (tony hawk did it on some street course, as did a few other skaters--a frontside rodeo or something) that they aren't the norm or the pulse of the art (though fs rodeos are still common in vert)...

Wakeboards and wakeskates are made to do whatever you want on them. Quiksilver has a really great quote and I wish I could remember it.

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:07 am Post subject:

ahh i know what you are thinking electricsnow i cant think of it either damn thats gonna drive me nuts. dang it.

-LoGiK- · Kickflip Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando

i never heard the quiksilver quote

but i always love this little saying

" To each his own "

Calskater23 · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1795 City: FRESNO

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

Quiksilver Quote: * Boardriding is about timing and style. It's youthful, active, casual, and free flowing. There is no wrong way to ride a board. The goal is simply to learn, progress, improve, and give it your own interpretation.

I guess I buy their rhetoric.

It's just funny though, how people are paranoid about the connection to wakeboarding...years ago grubb got a bad rap because people said he rode like a wakeboarder, since he did a lot of wake to wake spins and things instead of doing liptricks and shizzle...

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:23 am Post subject:

yea that was teh quote i knew it it fit right into this situation.
but yea when all that was going on i really liked grubb and i still do and it doesnt matter how you ride the board as long you do and try to progress. Surprised

waterdork88 · Frontside 180 Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 426 City: Orlando

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

Brett Little does back flips off the starting dock at TSR with a wakeskate in 1 hand.
i could see the sport getting evolutionized to wake 2 wake back flips even though it wouldnt be the sport you think it would be, but what the hell your enevating it Smash

brassmonkey · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

Wakeskating evolved from a combination of things. I look at it as maturity.

BB · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 1706

You can't stop evolution.

Kid512 · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 12:53 am Post subject:

the sport is evolving so fast though

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

electricsnow, Right. I personally don't find those tricks great to watch at all. And in a contest, in front of judges, it would probably win. Hands down.

Same goes for if, say.. Grubb did a w2w backflip or tantrum of whatever they're called, in a comp. It would probably win the comp.

Of course there's a crowd that would appreciate flips. There's a crowd for everything in action sports. I'm not at all opposed to people doing flips on a wakeskate. If that's what you wanna do, and have fun doing, awesome. Props.

Generally, though, if someone wants to be doing flips.. they'll wakeboard. And that's my answer to this guy's question.

Calskater23, Yeah.. i suppose you could say that. But there are still many less similarities in the concept of skateboarding and snowboarding than wakeskating and wakeboarding.

JonnyBravo · Posted: Dec 03, 2007 1:47 am Post subject:

I tried a backflip in the flats once, at cable for sh!ts and giggles. Needless to say it DID NOT end well. I think in some ways its a connection that is a bit needless to wakeboarding but like people say if u wanna do them its your board and its your trick, if u can land it then cool, i just dont think they look as majestic as a good ole shuv or something but. They just look rustic and weird and a lot of effort goes into it, but thats me i like the look of technical tricks and landing them in a way that looks like u didnt put any effort in at all.