Best Burton Binding???

[tad]

So I have two pairs of Cartels and my buddy wants to trade me his c60's for one of my pair..the c60's are like 380 dollar bindings or something crazy..

I LOVE my Cartels and the Team Skyback..

But has anyone rode the c60's or know anything about them? I searched for reviews but didn't find much.

If anything I might trade him and just sell them.. they are in perfect condition he used them on our trip for 3 days.

If you don't have anything to say about Burton bindings don't bother.. I hate flows and don't really care for any other brand of binding..

[ridehatzic]

I personally think the c60s are a waste of money(and if they are the orange one's, they are ugly as hell). If you find a buyer though they'd be good to sell and find another pair of bindings. There's so many good binding companies nowadays that you shouldn't just stick with burton, unless its the most practical for you. Technine makes good bindings but they have ratchet issues. Flux makes good bindings with one of the best toe straps around. I've heard nothing but good things about the Rome Targa's and 390s aswell. Don't just limit yourself to burton, unless you hafto.

[519]

Ok
C60
has Ultra-lightweight,ultra-responsive carbon-fiber/nylon composite baseplate with gapless baseplate padding/New B3 gel heel cushioning and tool-free adjustable gas pedal/NEW canted living hinge carbon frame hi back with aNew tool-free independent dailFlad/and hi back rotation,progressive flex /EVA padding-precurved,triple-axis telescoping ultrastrap,anew super cap strape withgrip fit and a tool-free lengthadjustment and dual component smooth glide buckles with polished stainless steel levers and quick release gate.
the response is rated a 10

So 10 is stiff as fawk and 1 is soft as shat
THE cartel
it has short-glass fibersand a nylon composite baseplate wth a new dual-density heel cushioning and a gaapless baseplate padding and tool free adjustable gas pedal, also the team sky back with quickflad and true EVApadding/pre-curved,triple-axis telescoping superstrap,convertibe capstrape with new grip fit and new tool-free lenght adjustment - dual-component smooth glide buckles with polished aluminum levers and quick release gate. Respone: 7

So, I my opinion, if you're into a really stiff binding with no give for tricks, then take the C60. However, if you want a little forgiveness for tricks, rails, jumps, then get the Cartels. Overall, I ride the Cartels and they're a great all around binding. To me riding the C60 would be like riding a hard stiff boot. But that's just myopinion. Hopefully this little insight will help make your decision on the trade. Have a great day.

[jonnyUTAH]

Burton Bindings are the sha-it!!1 519 nice...

[Culp]

I just got the carbons for the same price as the p1's b/c they were all ou t of black ones. they are legit. next years burtons all have the anatomical high backs if that tells you any thing about the way things are going. the only thing burton i ride is there bindings because no other company can come close. my friend out in utah just rode like 10 different bingings last weekend and he refuses to ride burton stuff but said out of everything he rode the head, yes head bindings were the best. he has a siz 13 or 14 shoe so he has always had a problem with to much flex.

[tad]

Thanks for the info.. I've never had any problems with Burton thats why I have no reason to switch.. I love my new cartels and I love the Team Skyback and the response.. and I love the new capstrap. I never said all other bindings suck, I just love them Cartels! haha. But I have a brand new pair of kelly greens that I dont feel like getting ripped off on ebay so Im trying to decide if I'd get more for Brand new cartels or more for C60's that were used for like 3 days.

[xXxcaliwakeskaterxXx]

has anyone seen the white 161 k2 podium? i think that board and the green and white cartels would be a sick setup, imo

[bjr]

keep the cartels...im not a fan of burtons bindings but the c60..from my knowledge has no flex what so ever

[mikeskatesonwater]

cartels are crap.....the back break cause they are too stiff. If you are a good rider or you have friends that are then you would know that missions are the best binding they make. Do you really think that just because you spent more money your getting a better binding? I ride four or five days a week. I work on park crew, I have been beating the living crap out of my bindings and they are still holding up just fine. if you pay more than $200 for a binding you are a gaper.

[tad]

I got my cartels for 80 but alright.. I like them and I'll ride them till they break. I live in Florida, im not too worried about it, I ride 2-3 trips a year.

[mikeskatesonwater]

[electricsnow]

k2 and ride are OWNED by the same company, but to my understanding they have different design teams, and ride is quite a bit smaller. Also, I work at a shop, ride is our best seller and we have not had any bindings come in broken. There was a problem with the higher end bindings, specificiall the deltas, because I guess they did not put locktite on some of the hardware and people were losing that stuff.

also, where did you get the idea that burton owns technine and sims? Sims is a crap company that was definitely owned by huffy at one point...I never heard of burton buying technine or sims. In fact, it would be completely ironic if burton bought sims, considering their tumultous history and the "craig kelly" debacle. The one thing those two have (burton and technine) in common is some sort of patent dispute settlement, and both companies have access to the "literal" toe cap strap, as opposed to the convertible toe cap strap. after that, I'd expect more of a relationship between those companies. For instance, when you look at the forum stuff, you can see that the technology is crossing over between the two. When you look at technines, they look nothing like burton and, in my opinion, are massively inferior.

It's funny though because the way you talk about the missions and the cartels, you speak as though everyone is looking for the same characteristics in a binding and therefore, the missions are the best...

[mikeskatesonwater]

I am just telling you what I see on a daily basis breaking the most, and what the local pros are riding. I see the stiffer high backs on more expensive bindings break because people believe that the more they spend the better the binding? Like you said they all have different characteristics, but I was simply pointing out that missions are amazing bindings. Ride makes amazing bindings but I noticed a lot of broken base plates, and screws comming out this season.

[Maria]

Salomon make good bindings... And Rob got me my Relay ones for a good price... amen to Rob! My boyfriend really likes his carbon Burton ones, but his are old c14s... And he's had them for probably 4 or 5 years...

[bjr]

mikeskatesonwater, i ride like everyday to.......i ride flux and i would nv buy burton bindings in the first place.

o and btw...working on the park crew means u know how to groom a transition....not that u know a lot about bindings

[PIRATE]

wait.......... was that a burn

[tad]

PIRATE, im pretty sure. but it's true in some cases (NOT ALL).. some of them can't snowboard for shizzle. kinda funny when they're cruising around in their sweet jackets and get showed up by kids from florida.

[mikeskatesonwater]

ahahhahahahaahhahhhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahha ummmm no......nor does that even come close to a burn....I gave my opinion, take it or leave it.

ps...groomers at most places are the best people on the hill, by boss rides for lib-tech and is on the spacecraft sticker sheets, his little bro and friend stacy ride for gnu, two of the guy I work with ride for ride, the guys who ski are unreal, and one of them rode for NAS and turned it down, anyway I can keep going but the moral of the story is that most "park crew" guys are better than you blindfolded ridding switch. could just be me but I think you have no idea what your talking about. Flux bindings are fine, i wasnt saying anything about them. I think the forum was called best burton bindings??? oh yeah it was....missions are really good bindings, there are a million companies that make good gear. I have had soo many set ups its hard to remembe them all...but I will tell you this burton missions, bentmetals, most rides, solomon, rome, and yes flux all make killer bindings. I am done with this forum..... tarpon feel free to come ride anytime

[mcwake420]

i ride the cartel's i have tried tons of bindings but the high backs on the other ones are more prone to break, my buddy just broke his p-1 carbon's that he got this season, but they rode awesome, burton was cool about the waranty on them. I would keep the cartels

[tad]

mikeskatesonwater, haha show me the part where I said I was better than you and ALL park crew riders suck.. I've seen some crew riders throw some sick shizzle and I've seen some who can't. I'd love to come ride but I leave for my last trip in 2 weeks and can't really afford to go anymore cause I'm in the process of building my winch.

I get a hook up from Burton sometimes, so I tend to stay with them.. I've rode the missions and yes I liked them but I PERSONALLY like the highback better on the cartels.

ps. im done with this thread, too. i've already made my decision and both bindings are gone.