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PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

what is head snowboards, are they good, are they crap, do you have a small wiener (not you esnow)..... actually yeah you cause even if you have a small wiener i'de like know.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

I'm pretty sure that company also makes skis. so since I'm an a-hole (and with that said), I would not ever buy a head snowboard.

no weiners here, weenie...

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

electricsnow, with that being said, how is it that you find it o.k to buy a wakeskate from a company that makes Wakeboards ? Surely if there were never ski's there would never be snowboards, just like if there were never wakeboards there would bever be wakeskates...

jonnyUTAH · Backside 180 Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1951

HAHAHAHAHA.....>WOW!!

Fag-more, head is like totally awesome (Sarcasim). Head makes tennis, squash, and racquetball rackets, alpine skis and boots, snowboarding boards, bindings, and boots, and related accessories and apparel.

You know if we lived near each other, we would be playing squash together after work like all the time.

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

jonnyUTAH, HAHHAAHHAA, NO THIS dude just hit me up about carrying it,.... yeah i know i live in the middle of the desert, SOrry people of the snow, i dont live on moss icly i didn't know........

In other news, I got a rome, and some burton custom bindings, And now i'm not going to tahoe.................... i'm going to Mammoth who's in ?

what the crap is squash anyway.....

ozwest · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject:

Okay, so I've been snowboarding for a long time (since 1989/1990) and grew up in the whole F-the ski companies that try to make snowboards era. After years of riding Nitro, Lib Tech, Gnu, Avalanche, Sims, Kemper, Ride, Division 23, Silence, Funk, and some smaller lesser known companies' boards, I finally decided to give a ski company a chance. Yeah it took me 16 years and was against everything I had grown up knowing to be a good idea. Of course I also was anti-Burton back in the day too...eventhough I honestly can look back now and say I was INCREDIBLY narrow-minded...they make a good product (ack...it's hard to type that because it's been programmed in my head for years to hate them).

I purchased an Atomic Polarity last season and it rode better than any board I've ever had. I also always thought the whole "female" board thing was a crock but I can honestly say this board is excellent for people with smaller feet and lighter weight. It is not what I would consider a female-only board since not all females are petite and some smaller framed/footed guys would benefit from it too.

I still can't explain how this ski company made such a good board other than the major ski company Atomic has LOTS of money to put into their R&D of their products and some FINALLY was used towards their snowboard line. Also, there's something to be said for knowing how to produce a good shape and edges that last. I hit so many trees and rails last season (some on purpose and some by accident) and not a single lift to the edge. This is way better than any other board I had...except for the Lib Tech my friends at Mervin Mfg. custom made for me back in the mid-90's. That Lib was bombproof.

I have never ridden as well as I did last year and the only thing that changed was the board...still riding the same boots and bindings. Took a while to get used to how super-fast the board is and how far it kicks me off of jumps and windlips but I'm glad I overcame my prejudice towards ski companies making snowboards.

I don't know d1ck about Head but I do know I'm happy I gave Atomic a chance. As always...if you have the opportunity to demo a board...I highly suggest it.

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

ozwest, I have to say that ski companies have the potential to make a better product than a smaller comapny the question is are they motivated enough? which can only be answered by trying the product, Brando, if they want you to carry there line ask them to send you a demo, just tell them the owner test rides every product before he decides to carry it lol used to work for me at quadrant

ozwest · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject:

kento911, Well said. That's a great question.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

pirate, the history is different. The way I see it, wakeboarders have a lot more in common with wakeskaters than skiers of that era had with snowboarders. I don't think you really want me to go into it because it would be long winded, but to me, they aren't comparable.

Furthermore, it's completely silly to think that if wakeboards didn't exist, wakeskating wouldn't exist. Originally, people rode behind boats unattached (on surfboards, geeky aquaplanes, et al). And with jason messer, that dude was skate influenced right from the start. re-read his interview--he, like many others, stood up on a kneeboard. he may have wakeboarded for a very short period of time, but he was heavily influenced by surfing and then his skating at burnside. So please don't tell me that wakeskates wouldn't ever exist without wakeboards.

And with that said, I still wouldn't touch a head snowboard. Wakeboard companies have been making wakeskates longer than you've been a wakeskater (the major two have been making them pretty much from the start). They may not have been rad, and even now, they may not be your ideal deck, but it is what it is. And are these companies trying to save their asses by making wakeskates? I've heard all over the place that whether you're a shop or a manufacturer, wakeskates don't really make you any money (especially if they fall apart).

sorry for the edits, I'm preoccupied

jonnyUTAH · Backside 180 Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1951

Bran-deuche....you bought a Rome eh?! Did Emily have any influence in that decision???

I swear by the Burton Custom. Best all-around snowboard money can buy...end of story. Pipe, powder, rails, kickers, jibbing...you can do it all.

As for ski companies...yes they make great boards. One season I was given a Salomon, and I almost broke my ancles riding it because I kept over-shooting all the transitions in the park. The Salomon base is FAST. If you ever do boarder-cross, a well-tuned Salomon is hard to beat.

ozwest · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:

electricsnow, Is Head a good ski company? I was just thinking that after reading your post. If Head isn't a good ski company, I wouldn't doubt their snowboards would have the potential to suck as well. I've never ridden Head snowboards or skiied on Head skis so I wouldn't know. Just thought I'd get your 2 cents worth there because it sounds like you might have tried a Head board or know someone who did.

Jesse · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject:

"Hey this the Head booth, Head is good, we love it!!" Devun Walsh Laughing

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

jesse, hahahaha....9 lives... Very Happy

ozwest, I've never even dealt with any ski company brands in snowboarding, due to the tumultuous history of it all. For whateve reason, I was more stubborn about that, and I don't feel bad about it, considering my shop owner is the same way (he won't even carry nike skating shoes--sorry if I offend any nike skaters here). I still don't regret it either. Sassy principles, you know...

I have, however, ridden rossignol and olin mark skis. Very Happy

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

jonnyUTAH, NO actually, Grouch is riding a different board and he road his Rome last year so he's hooking me up with it for CHEAP !!! Go to n*calwake, there's been a change of plan......

ozwest · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject:

electricsnow, I hear ya' on history. I used to work in a snowboard/skateboard/surf shop in the early 90's and that's why I probably have my biased opinions. Burton wouldn't allow us to carry their boards because we were not a ski shop. WTF?! Still freaks me out and I can't believe that I'm riding a ski company snowboard but the riding...OMG...the board handles so well (yet...I still vow to find a non-ski company backed snowboard that will kick the Polarity's arse...I guess some things are difficult to change).

And BTW...eeeeeewww...Nike. Ick.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

That's so funny about burton, because their image is so far from that these days. They have a board for everyone, whether it's the chain shop or a "coalition" shop.

And I bought a dark series from lib last year, so I see no need to ride anything else at this point. Very Happy

However, i will say that a rome agent was my first choice. The only reason i didn't get it was because they didn't have my size. but that lib is the best board I've ever ridden..I like their history, their desire to progress design, and just their attitudes all together (even though they're owned by quik).

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

electricsnow, THATS WHAT I GOT.

ridehatzic · Posted: Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject:

I rode a Salomon for two years and didn't have any complaints. I mean really, David Benedek rides for Salomon. Could it be that bad?

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

Head makes everything for sports. I have a Head tennis racket. It would be equivilant to Wilson making a wakeboard or wakeskate.

Greg T · Skeezer Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 2448 City: ohio

Head makes good skis. They are built bomb proof from what ive heard. As far as snowboards go, I have no idea.

Olin marks (II's?)......the original twin tip. Esnow was a two planker.....