hardflip defined

Frye · Guest Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 3335

and do some manuals

stompin9s · Posted: May 04, 2005 12:25 am Post subject:

i knew this was gonna come up. lemmon's wasn't as clean as nick's but he was first so i def give him huge props for it. technically ryan's spins in a more hardflip like motion. i still think frye summed it up the best with his post:

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Im with russian, copy paste his shizzle here, and base it on my 10 years of skateboarding

SleuCrew · Posted: May 04, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:

Ask any "real" skateboarder and they will tell you the same as most here... a hardflip is the combination of a fs shuv and a k-flip... plain and simple, its the of the two trick combination that makes it a "true" hardflip.

Nikkie... what that pic shows could be called a "lazy hardflip" but the term of the the board going vertical between the legs is most commonly called a "Illusion Flip"

I will put my 18 years of skateboarding on this... and if anybody wants to argue this, look at any video of Rodney Mullen the board will go slightly vertical but it is the combination of the two tricks, and well he invented it so you cant argue with that.

SleuCrew · Posted: May 04, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:

just to end this topic so you kids can learn from the man himself here is a sequence of Rodney doing a crooked grind to hardflip...

nick · Posted: May 04, 2005 6:02 am Post subject:

Ok, if I didn't do a hardflip, what did I do? Rolling Eyes

SleuCrew · Posted: May 04, 2005 6:18 am Post subject:

Nick Taylor, You did a hardflip and dont let anyone tell you anything different! Very Happy

Glad to hear you are getting your board back too!

scottyb · Posted: May 04, 2005 6:20 am Post subject:

ya i just watched it over and over again and ur doing pretty much the same thing as the pics, keep it up

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 04, 2005 11:10 am Post subject:

ya its a hard flip... i <3 Mullen

Gokou · Faceplant Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 17 City: Orlando

What would a FS big spin w/ a kick flip be called?

pipo · Backside 180 Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1214 City: 0172

Gokou, FS bigspin flip

Gokou · Faceplant Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 17 City: Orlando

Thanks Pipo..... I would like to see one of those....

Nick, get on that and post a vid Wink

Nekkie · Posted: May 04, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject:

as everybody here I'm gonna use my 10 years of skating as an argument Very Happy

or not lol... Yeah I'm just used to seeing them done vertical, but I agree it is a front shuv with flip, just used to seeing them vertical on skateboards Wink

and Nick, you did a Hardflip!!!

NewbSkate · Pop Shuvit Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 115

RUSSIAN, word. There's actually two styles of hardflip, and if you watch really closely they are the same thing. I personally think the flat spinning kinds (like on a wakeskate) look better anyway.

no if it flips sideways it is an inward kickflip(frontside shuvit with a kick flip)

nick taylors's is an inward kickflip

NewbSkate · Pop Shuvit Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 115

oh and by the way, the "hardflip" on the wakeskate is a kickflip with a front shuv. Look closely at the sequence of rodney mullen. he does a front shuv with the opposite direction of a kickflip.(kind of a heel flip).

Nekkie · Posted: May 04, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:

yeah, I was about to say this too... it looks like rodney (*bowing while saying the name of the godfather*) is doing an outward heelflip out on this one: back shuv with a heelflip... or a fakie inward heelflip

Vance Collins · Guest

Son on a hard flip the skate will be sticking straight up right? I know its bad quality. But looks straight up to me. Remember these pics are from two differnet angles.

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 04, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:

the world may never know Rolling Eyes

RUSSIAN · Posted: May 04, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject:

RUSSIAN · Posted: May 04, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject:

A hard flip is a frontside shuvit with a kickflip.