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crazy_Syber Pop Shuvit


Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 173 City: Tahiti,Fr:Wakecity
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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headhuntermx4, I can do wht u want in a tranpoline
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| el, crails and nuclear grabs are different. a crail is when the back hand grabs the toe side of a board near the nose. a nuclear is like a crail but you grab the heel side of the board near the nose with your back hand.
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 559 City: can't pick just one
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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wakemitch, i think el knows that they are different grabs.
el, im not too familar with the development with grabs and such and am certainly not familiar with grabs in skateboarding(being much more of a street skater) but i do thinks grabs have gotten really messed up. im kinda confused on how you can grab crail on a skateboard, would you be grabbing like your front toe/shoe because i thought crail was a back hand grab on above your front foot? also do you have any pictures of people doing nuclears seatbelts or crails on a skateboard? as i said im not into vert so as far as i know these grabs arent done or are not common. so many people in wakeboarding mess the seatbelt grab up. every snowboard site ive seen has said seatbelts are grabbed on the tail but this isnt very easy on a wakeboard so they changed it to being a back hand grab on the nose. and nuclears from snowboarding got carried over, which are grabbed on the side of the nose because the nose is longer than the tail unlike wakeboards. so wakeboarders kept this placement.
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brandn Ollie

Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 90 City: orlando
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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..crappy video capture.. i think i fell on this one.. but i got one clean one before...
---brandn

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el Backside 180


Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 1739 City: The Sea
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| wakemitch wrote: | | el, crails and nuclear grabs are different. a crail is when the back hand grabs the toe side of a board near the nose. a nuclear is like a crail but you grab the heel side of the board near the nose with your back hand. |
This may be true in wakeboarding... In the beginning of my post, I said "let's talk skateboarding". I won't dispute what you said about wakeboarding, I'm going from what I've learned from skateboarding. Go grab a skate mag and look at a pic of somebody doing a crail slide. More often than not they are grabbing in front of their front foot, past where the kicktail bends upwards, making it the nose area. Skateboarding is a lot more general about that stuff. Around here anyway, they are called either crails/nuclears when you grab in front of the front foot. I honestly don't know how that would carry into wakeskating, so call that stuff what you like I guess, it is a sort of grey area...
And this was the only picture I could find of a crail slide, Kay-Kay...
I mean when you're leaning that far over to grab infront of your frontfoot with your back hand, it's prettymuch always a nose-area grab. And crail is a much more common name.
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seven11dmd Backside 180


Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 2427 City: Northern VA
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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brandn, that looks fn sweeet
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el Backside 180


Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 1739 City: The Sea
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Word dude... I wish I could just consistently grab my w2w's...
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Raven 3 Shuv Reed Texas Gap

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 5988 City: OC
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Posted: Feb 03, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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brandn,
That's what I'm takin bout!
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 1:51 am Post subject: |
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El, techincally is a nuclear an "other hand method" (that's what the wakeboarders like to call that trick). I don't know if I've ever seen a nuclear done on a skateboard, but crails are supposed to be on the nose.
But in this one option ad, travis williams was basically doing a palmer with his back hand and I was like "what's that?" I've come to the conclusion that that's a "true" nuclear. Do you know anything about this? Wakeboarding has so many weird trick names it's unreal...
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 17488 City: yes
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| brandn, holy crap thats so awsome!!
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concusionfilms Faceplant

Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 21 City: austin
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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this is a video shot, best shot i could get but that is a judo correct??
i can land it smooth thats just the only pic i have at this time
benihana is grab tail front foot off board as far as i know
damn brandn thats awesome

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DiSsOwned Faceplant

Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 33 City: azura
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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I am almost positive that a judo is a method with your front foot kicked out in front of you.
concusionfilms, brandn, Those both look really good.
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el Backside 180


Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 1739 City: The Sea
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Concussionflims, not quite. A benihana is grabbing tail with your back hand and hanging your back foot off, the further off the cooler.
And I don't think that's a judo, you have to be grabbing with your front hand on the heelside of the board(sometimes on the nose is fair game too depending on who you ask), extra points for methods, and kicking your back foot straight out, like you're kicking a can off your deck.
That's still super sick though. I don't even know what that would be called... maybe a stale-hana (benihana, except with a stalefish, if your back foot was staightened out that might be a legit name)
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concusionfilms Faceplant

Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 21 City: austin
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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yeh i didnt know what to cal it either stalefish grab back foot off
i can do mute front hand infront toeside back foot off behind is that a madonna?
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Greg T Skeezer

Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 2448 City: ohio
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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grabs are so confusing
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brandn Ollie

Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 90 City: orlando
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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.//..thanks....... ..its a .fun trick....but watch out for the groin seperation, if you land wrong..
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Kay-Kay Backside 180

Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 559 City: can't pick just one
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Posted: Feb 04, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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concusionfilms, i believe madonna is a nose grab.
electricsnow, i guess you could say its an "other hand method" except you dont have to tweak it out like a mehtod but same spot. so many tricks have been bastardized. it wouldnt be that big of a deal if people didnt use trick names for the wrong trick. do you think lemons should call hardflips lemon flips now? that would sound cool.
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 17488 City: yes
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Posted: Feb 05, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| i saw grubb do one of these in his bonus section of snap, it was so awsome he kicked his leg out so straight.
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Raven 3 Shuv Reed Texas Gap

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 5988 City: OC
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Posted: Mar 30, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I liked this thread so I'm bringing it back. Can anybody throw up some tips on the benihana? It seems to be one of those mental tricks.
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xstfu ill pwn youx Backside 180

Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 837 City: 954.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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chris o did one a while back i think.
thats what his bffl dmart said.
he lies alot though.
but i belive it.
chris is sykk.
chris?
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