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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What mother efferrs!

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65833720100609?type=technologyNews
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-LoGiK-, Unfortunately it could also cause an even more unstoppable leak. Right now they have a pretty clean shaft (heehee) that the oil is running through, if they destroy that, the oil could possibly still leak up through the cracks and would be almost impossible to plug. While it's an option, it is definitely a last effort when EVERYTHING else has failed.

Granted, they should be trying everything in their power otherwise and that's not quite happening..

F*CK BP!
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone whos boycotting BP....

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/boycott-bp-that-hurts-station-owners-not-the-company/19499350/
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tough shizzle for them, it's the way of the world. Why should we take pity on these shop owners? We don't owe them anything and there are plenty of other convienence stores on every corner. There's still a giant oil spill that's really not getting taken care of, I don't think anyone cares about some bp stores shutting down, most would welcome the idea just so they don't have to see them anymore.
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Top Hat, BP doesn't make their money from gas stations, they make their money from selling oil. If you boycott the stations then BP will just take whatever gas is unsold at their stations and sell it wholesale to other companies.

Most of BP's profits don't even come from the BP gas stations. Even BP knows this, which is why they sold the gas stations and now they are independently owned. Is it really fair to punish a gas station owner that didn't cause the oil spill? Because that's who this boycott would really affect. BP can still sell to airlines, commercial companies, wholesale, and can sell to others to make other products with the petroleum. Even Greenpeace is telling consumers not to boycott because of who truly profits from the gas stations, your neighbors, not BP.

If you really want to do something about the oil spill, don't punish local business owners trying to put food on their family's table. Punish BP and punish all the other petroleum companies for that matter. Ride a bike. Walk. Demand that your city get better public transportation. Try to drive less.

It's easy to stand outside BP with signs. It's harder to change your day-to-day habits to use less energy and be kinder to the earth.

Do you recycle every glass, paper, plastic parcel? Do you take shorter showers to conserve water? Do you try to buy locally grown produce every time? Do you take the bus because it would save gas and money instead of driving your car?

Then why are you suddenly calling yourself an environmental activist?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127110643


And how do you not think that BP is not taking care of it? They have spent $500 mil as they should have to help so far and will be doing things for the next 10+ years to clean up what has happened. Do you have any bright ideas to help them Brian? Because you seem to think you can fix it even though they can't.
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-=AlexXx=- wrote:
Mr. Top Hat,

Then why are you suddenly calling yourself an environmental activist?




please quote me on claiming to be any sort of activist. i also never argued about BP's profits, i actually didn't say much else other than i don't think anybody cares about BP convenience stores. there is no convenience store loyalty, an overpriced Arizona tea is an overpriced Arizona tea pretty much wherever you go. there's not a shortage of choices to shop from so why go to a BP if you don't have to, if for no other reason then you really just don't feel like it?

don't lecture me on saving energy, oil, gas, the world, ect. its irrelevant and i truly don't care to hear whatever your opinions are on the subject.

The only person i know that this boycott is affecting is your daddy who owns a BP station. good luck with that one, i look forward to more posts defending BP in the future
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bp is not paying people what they need. 5000.00 to a fisherman for 2 months of not being able to work? i mean i know it's hard to figure it out quickly, but these people have mortgages, kids, utility bills, car notes, etc and no news on when he/she will be able to get back to fishing in the next 10 years. i still go to my bp gas station, but i don't buy gas.
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PostPosted: Jun 09, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant remember the last time i went into a BP gas station.... but my mom and step dad do work on the north slope of Alaska for BP Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Jun 30, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Tuesday June 29, 2010, 6:43 pm EDT
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States is accepting help from 12 countries and international organizations in dealing with the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The State Department said in a statement Tuesday that the U.S. is working out the particulars of the help that's been accepted.

The identities of all 12 countries and international organizations were not immediately announced. One country was cited in the State Department statement -- Japan, which is providing two high-speed skimmers and fire containment boom.

More than 30 countries and international organizations have offered to help with the spill. The State Department hasn't indicated why some offers have been accepted and others have not.

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After all this time Obama is finally accepting help?? What was the hold up? Neutral

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PostPosted: Jun 30, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm in mobile, about 45min from dauphin island. and less from mobile bay. we are so screwed. one storm thats closer than alex and everything is over.
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PostPosted: Jun 30, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZackFL(BRE) wrote:
After all this time Obama is finally accepting help?? What was the hold up? Neutral
He might have been trying to figure out what each of the countries wants in return for their equipment/services. Not everyone is willing to lend a helping hand out of the goodness of their hearts.
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PostPosted: Jun 30, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think he was trying to figure out why he's doing such a horrible job as our president in every facet of the office.
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PostPosted: Jul 01, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.

The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway. "Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour," Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide, giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.

To protect against the possibility that its equipment wouldn't capture all the oil gushing from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch also offered to prepare for the U.S. a contingency plan to protect Louisiana's marshlands with sand barriers. One Dutch research institute specializing in deltas, coastal areas and rivers, in fact, developed a strategy to begin building 60-mile-long sand dikes within three weeks.
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The Americans, overwhelmed by the catastrophic consequences of the BP spill, finally relented and took the Dutch up on their offer -- but only partly. Because the U.S. didn't want Dutch ships working the Gulf, the U.S. airlifted the Dutch equipment to the Gulf and then retrofitted it to U.S. vessels. And rather than have experienced Dutch crews immediately operate the oil-skimming equipment, to appease labour unions the U.S. postponed the clean-up operation to allow U.S. crews to be trained.
http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible+catastrophe/3203808/story.html

Assuming this is true, because I don't think we'll ever get a straight f-king answer on anything related to the oil spill...

Do you:
1) allow foreigners to come in and take care of the issue
+ faster, more effective, better equipment, more experienced workers
- they use their work force so US fishermen out of jobs for the time being

2) hire local labor
+ employ Americans
- takes time to train them, they will be inexperienced, they don't have a clue what's going on...
...and...
hiring locally gives BP and US Govt more control as to what information gets out. Confused

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PostPosted: Jul 01, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know plenty of people doing clean up and it's all for show. half the boats out there aren't allowed to touch boom or anything and aren't fisherman, just own boats and called early. the others doing skimming will soon be in the hospital b/c of how hazardous it is and no respirators or anything. i got a job with a contract company paying 25 an hour 7 days a week 12 hours a day and folks said i can't do it b/c it's too unsafe given nobody knows the long term effects. alabama has been denied twice for money from bp for skimmers and the like. bp stands for biatch polluters, butt plugs, beach petroleum, british punks, etc. the water way where the valdez spilled won't be clean for another 30 years they say. and this gusher is already way bigger.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its stopped.
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2010 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

triggamike, for now ....
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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

over priced AZ tea? there like 99 cents?
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PostPosted: Jul 16, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-LoGiK-, heaven for bid we try and be positive about it
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