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LATX Pop Shuvit
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Posted: Jan 14, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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i<3wksk8 wrote: | according to the Bible. |
precisely
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the other luke Pop Shuvit
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Posted: Jan 14, 2013 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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cant we all just learn to love one another!?
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TTUFAN24 Something Clever
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Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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i<3wksk8, pretty sure the bible doesn't mention science. It would be like showing the end of the movie at the beginning and expecting people to stay through the whole thing.
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nick Island Rat
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Posted: Jan 15, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: |
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the other luke Pop Shuvit
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knox Kickflip
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Posted: Jan 15, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Discussion & Mirth≠Hate
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Mr. Top Hat Dead
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Posted: Jan 15, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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If it wasn't for hate then Jesus wouldn't be bleeding out of giant ice cubes.
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jxpxsx Pop Shuvit
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Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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nick, I saw an ad that linked to this shirt right after seeing your post.
ODD
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i<3wksk8 Frontside 180
Joined: 12 Jun 2005 Posts: 262
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Posted: Jan 16, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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TTUFAN24, 1 Timothy 6:20 - O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1
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TTUFAN24 Something Clever
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Posted: Jan 16, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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let me help you spread the message
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TTUFAN24 Something Clever
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Posted: Jan 16, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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excuse me sir......
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lhsxc22 Pop Shuvit
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 145 City: Elgin
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Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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This is a little excerpt from a commencement speech at Kenyon College given by David Foster Wallace. I think it's worth the read.
"Here's another didactic little story. There are these two guys sitting together in a bar in the remote Alaskan wilderness. One of the guys is religious, the other is an atheist, and the two are arguing about the existence of God with that special intensity that comes after about the fourth beer. And the atheist says: "Look, it's not like I don't have actual reasons for not believing in God. It's not like I haven't ever experimented with the whole God and prayer thing. Just last month I got caught away from the camp in that terrible blizzard, and I was totally lost and I couldn't see a thing, and it was 50 below, and so I tried it: I fell to my knees in the snow and cried out 'Oh, God, if there is a God, I'm lost in this blizzard, and I'm gonna die if you don't help me.'" And now, in the bar, the religious guy looks at the atheist all puzzled. "Well then you must believe now," he says, "After all, here you are, alive." The atheist just rolls his eyes. "No, man, all that was was a couple Eskimos happened to come wandering by and showed me the way back to camp."
It's easy to run this story through kind of a standard liberal arts analysis: the exact same experience can mean two totally different things to two different people, given those people's two different belief templates and two different ways of constructing meaning from experience. Because we prize tolerance and diversity of belief, nowhere in our liberal arts analysis do we want to claim that one guy's interpretation is true and the other guy's is false or bad. Which is fine, except we also never end up talking about just where these individual templates and beliefs come from. Meaning, where they come from INSIDE the two guys. As if a person's most basic orientation toward the world, and the meaning of his experience were somehow just hard-wired, like height or shoe-size; or automatically absorbed from the culture, like language. As if how we construct meaning were not actually a matter of personal, intentional choice. Plus, there's the whole matter of arrogance. The nonreligious guy is so totally certain in his dismissal of the possibility that the passing Eskimos had anything to do with his prayer for help. True, there are plenty of religious people who seem arrogant and certain of their own interpretations, too. They're probably even more repulsive than atheists, at least to most of us. But religious dogmatists' problem is exactly the same as the story's unbeliever: blind certainty, a close-mindedness that amounts to an imprisonment so total that the prisoner doesn't even know he's locked up.
The point here is that I think this is one part of what teaching me how to think is really supposed to mean. To be just a little less arrogant. To have just a little critical awareness about myself and my certainties. Because a huge percentage of the stuff that I tend to be automatically certain of is, it turns out, totally wrong and deluded. I have learned this the hard way, as I predict you graduates will, too."
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i<3wksk8 Frontside 180
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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Whosoever calls on the name Jesus shall be saved.
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Steven M 2 Legit 2 Quit
Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 3638 City: Menlo Park/ Bay Area
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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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An orthodox rabbi is studying in his living room, when there is a knock on the door. When he opens the door, it is a policeman, who informs him that the rivers are rising, a flood is expected, and evacuation is recommended.
The rabbi explains, "I am a man of God. I am sure he will protect me from danger."
The policeman shrugs his shoulders and leaves.
As the rabbi is watching the rising water getting closer and closer to his house, there is a second knock, this time a State Trooper. The trooper says, "Rabbi, we are evacuating the area as the flood is getting serious and you are in jeopardy."
Again the rabbi explains, "I am a man of God. I am sure he will protect me from danger. I am staying."
Well, the water continues to rise, until the rabbi is forced to stay on the second floor. He hears some yelling and looks up to see two firemen in a rowboat right outside his second floor window.
"Rabbi!" one of the firemen calls, "Get in the boat, the rains are not letting up! It's getting serious."
"I am a man of God. He will protect me from danger. I'll stay."
The firemen, fearing for their own safety, row on.
As the flood rises, the rabbi is forced to climb out onto his roof, just as a helicopter is flying over. The helicopter drops a rope ladder and a voice calls down, "We're coming to get you, rabbi!"
"No, no.... God will protect me. You go on."
Well, needless to say, the water continues to rise and the rabbi drowns. When he gets to Heaven, he is really upset. "I must see God," says the rabbi. "Please take me to God."
He is granted an audience with God.
"Lord," says the rabbi, "after a lifetime of devotion to you, why would you forsake me in my moment of need?"
God says, "You schmuck, I sent two cops, a rowboat full of firemen, and a helicopter...."
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-=AlexXx=- Pillage & Plunder
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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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GnarShredd wrote: | The antarctic is on its period. | thats what i thought
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frankycouplepuphs Backside 180
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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Saw this on reddit this morning and immediately thought of this thread.
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WERDna Backside 180
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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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TTUFAN24 wrote: | i<3wksk8, pretty sure the bible doesn't mention science. It would be like showing the end of the movie at the beginning and expecting people to stay through the whole thing. |
Have you seen Memento?
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TTUFAN24 Something Clever
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Posted: Jan 21, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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WERDna, hahaha just the ending. then i left.
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