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greg van wagnen · Posted: Oct 13, 2003 10:30 am Post subject:

[quote="Josh"]They bring lies and bullsh*t to the table and try to sell it too the masses. They promote an attitude of 'doing it for the bling' - the cash, the fame, the product, not the love of the sport.

thats the main reason you shouldnt want corpurations in wakeskating, other then that who cares if they make more people in the world aware of wakeskating? it might bring in people that dont know sh*t about wakeskateing and just want to be famous, but i highly doubt that there are going to be that many people that start just to be famous. i think the most that would come of it would be a lot of kids trying it becuase it looks cool and more parents liking it becuase its like skateboarding but the kids dont get hurt as often and it can become more of a family sport. for years wakeboarding was a thing that me and my dad would go do, and now my stepbrother does it too. a lot of my cousins wakeboard or want too wakeboard just becuase its cool and becuase they see me do it. none of them are like i want to be a pro thats the only reason i am going to do it. so im not sure if thats proving you right or wrong and i dont really care but bringing in major corprations will only cause more awareness of the sport that will lead to more people trying it and most of the people im sure will not be doing it to be the next brian grubb, especialy when it takes them a hole day to figure out how to get up on the board. i can still rember the first time i tried to wakeboard. there is no way it was in my mind that i was doing something that i have now been doing for more then half my life and am now trying to be a "pro" at it (a form of it, i started on a skurfer so it was very close to a wakeskate)

crackerjack · Pop Shuvit Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 124 City: Salisbury

All this talk about corporate involvement in the wakeskate world promoted me to dig this up. It is a Consolidated Skateboards ad that ran in Thrasher in December 2001. I think it fits the mood quite well.
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THE GIVE AND TAKE

Don't you hate it when one of your favorite riders gets endorsed by a company you don't like or that isn't even a skateboard company? Usually it's cuz they offered him a lot of money to try to legitimize their company in skateboarding. So don't hate the skateboarder-he is just trying to feed his family.

These non-skateboarding companies see that skateboarding is getting popular and they want a piece of the action. When they pay riders, run ads, and sponsor events, they are "giving" to skateboarding. Though they appear to be giving, they are not "saviors." Their motives are to take away more than they give. These companies aren't dumb, but they think we are.

So What do You Do??!!!

Just don't buy their products. You see, if you don't buy their products then they can't take more then they give. And don't worry, since they're big companies, they'll keep paying the riders, and when one gives up, another will step in.

These companies know that lots of skateboarders already know this, so they try to hide really good, with different names and separate warehouses. But it's not that hard to figure out-just ask around. Skate shops usually know.

So let them keep giving. Maybe someday we can even say thank you.

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Yep.

As for Cassette, I think that its great that they actually have personality. Say what you want but Cassette has a vision for wakeskating. One that has innovation, progression, and creativity in mind. Certainly not a vision that includes

funnyfeni · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 6:53 am Post subject:

anyone seen that disney movie Brink? that's all im saying...soul skater all the way..Yeah!!!!

Yuri · Raley Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 1977 City: orlando

funnyfeni, i have but i wouldnt mind being sponsered!

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10735 City: Jefferton

That ad is exactly right. I personally think there's a catch 22 with corporate involvement--on one hand, more money means more riders (that are deserving of it, hopefully) could potentially live off of what they love and help progress themselves and wakeskating (provided they aren't confused and all of a sudden think they're rock stars). However, the "athletes" are disposable and companies don't care about us; if you get hurt or you're finished, they'll just find somebody else (Hey, did that Mountain dew sponsorship really help dean lavelle? 50,000.....)

I would like to add that a larger sport will bring more people into it that aren't riding for the right reasons. For instance, how do you explain all of the young kids that go onto message boards, can't spell and say "I can do 180s and touch my board. How can I get sponsored?" Also, last summer at a wakeboard comp, I actually witnessed a mother make her 10-12 year old son recite his run to her (and it was a stupid, meaningless comp). Trust me, not everyone coming in has the best intentions for wakeskating (or wakeboarding, whatever).

funnyfeni · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 8:38 am Post subject:

sorry dude.. i mean this post reminds me of the movie.. but im cool with sponsorships. i was just poking fun. we should have talking mesage boards. where you can record your voice.. being sarcastic is hard while typing

skatingguy · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 156 City: Birmingham

Yeah, like I could say "I'm through with wakeskating and skateboarding forever. All this drama is making me not like it anymore. I'm just going to Rollerblade from now on, because Rollerblades are cooler and..uuhh..more extreme! I think I'll find some way to take rollerblading to the water, and then I'll be all cool."
And then people would actually believe me, like they seemed to with that damn rainforest nonsense I posted earlier.

greg van wagnen · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 10:48 am Post subject:

skatingguy, ill start fruitbooting with you.....o i ment rollerfagging....damn i cant even say it but im in. Laughing

skatingguy · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 156 City: Birmingham

In-line wakeskating; yeah we could do mad wake-to-wake soul grabs!! Sweet! See you guys at the lake, I got my new sport and am ready to blow some minds. Yeah, you heard me.

greg van wagnen · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 10:52 am Post subject:

im only in it for the money though, not becuase its fun Twisted Evil

484rider · Frontside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 442 City: orlando

rollerblading on water is like shoe sking...dont u agree?

greg van wagnen · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject:

it was a joke

skatingguy · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 156 City: Birmingham

"Shoe skiing." Is that real? Or is my sarcasm detector malfunctioning?

wakeriderof87 · Frontside 180 Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 495 City: cen fla

i'm not sure if its called shoe skiing but they have these trainer skis that you can use to learn to barefoot on

484rider · Frontside 180 Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 442 City: orlando

no...they are different from the trainers. theyre about14 inches long and about 7inches wide. we have some fags that do it here on my lake. i just make fun of them by imatating them on the wakeskate. its soo funny cuz they get soo pissed.

wakeriderof87 · Frontside 180 Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 495 City: cen fla

no offense but why make fun of them, they like doing something different who cares

skatingguy · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 156 City: Birmingham

Man, 484rider if you're pissed (I don't know if you are or not) about the Cassette guys making fun of you for your Ole 540, you probably shouldn't be making fun of shoe skiers and calling them "fags," you know?

UdBhotrinthefire · Faceplant Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 27 City: seattle

no trix skiing is the best thing ever. You gotta pull out the 80's day at least once in the summer.

dankskate · Posted: Oct 14, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject:

i agree with skatingguy, chase you are being hypocritical. you make fun of the skiers but yet you do trick skier tricks in comps and expect not get ragged on. 'welcome to crazy world'

stussy · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 706

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