Reopen the 9/11 investigation!

parm · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: Reopen the 9/11 investigation!

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS206808+10-Sep-2009+PRN20090910

"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it." JFK

taku · Kickflip Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2868 City: Central FL

http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2001/12/14/bush-binladen.htm

GnarShredd · Backside 180 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 1529 City: Seattle

So what's going to be so different if things are reopened and something new is discovered? (Not that I think anything will be because conspiracy theorists are all crazy).

In any case what's done is done and thousands have died in what I'm sure most people now consider a senseless war. You can't change that, stop your bitching and look towards the future and how we can make that better.

taku · Kickflip Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2868 City: Central FL

For some reason that link wouldn't open for me RedShred -- anyways conspiracy nuts have a bible of stuff they spew every time anyone brings up 9/11.. the big one is "structural steel does not melt at the temps that jet fuel burns at".. .and that's totally true they are right, it doesn't melt, but it ever so slightly weakens. I saw a demonstration of this recently on tv too, with only 1 structural steel beam, and 3 giant heavy weights placed on top of it.. they made a firepit with jetfuel in it, and layed the beam across the firepit with the weights sitting on top. It literally took less than 4 minutes of being engulfed in the flames of jetfuel before the beam warped and twisted and the weights fell off.

Imagine the amount of weight of 20-30 FLOORS of building pushing down on the weight bearing trusses and supports that were engulfed in burning jet fuel for over an hour. They definitely weakened ever so slightly... definitely enough to cause the thousands of tons of weight above them to crush, and that forceful amount of weight couldn't be stopped by the "good" trusses/beams on the floors below. I never would have guessed that sort of damage would be possible after seeing the way those buildings are built, but then again, those buildings weren't built to withstand the heat that jetfuel introduced for over an hour that fateful day 8 years ago today.

GnarShredd · Backside 180 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 1529 City: Seattle

taku, That's a great point I always use as well. Even though they're massive, buildings are engineered to be as structurally sound as possible while trying to remain cost-efficient. (That's kind of what engineering is in general.) This means using each material to its maximum potential (while taking in to account everyday issues like sway from wind, etc.). When you weaken or distort this in an unplanned way (i.e. fire) you completely ruin the structural integrity of the buildings.

In short, those who say there were explosions, etc. - STFU

parm · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject:

taku, I'll try and find a different link. Basically the city of New York has over 90,000 petitions to reopen the investigation.

There are too many unanswered questions. Experts in architecture, engineering , and aviation have studied the evidence, and the story we were given is clearly untruthful. These people are not conspiracy nuts.

Think about building 7, it wasn't even hit by a plane...... The 9/11 commission didn't even include it's collapse in the final report. Watch some videos, its clearly a controlled demolition.

mojo · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject:

first of all, conspiracies theories often hold validity. our government wants us to believe it is capable of super secret, evil deeds, but never admits to it openly so that the fear that the gov't can do anything and get away with it is implanted in our minds. secondly, i find more credible evidence that something fishy went on with the pentagon "crash" than the towers.

RollinTrees · Frontside 180 Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 334 City: NorCal

DONT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT!

burn · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:

my buddie wrote this on facebook.

Since 60% of the 9/11 commissioners are now saying their own report of what happened that day is wrong, then who is telling the TRUTH? We want a NEW investigation! NOT one filled with lies...We as Americans need to ask our government questions... and not let this slip by unanswered. We owe it to all the lives lost that day and to their families that will never be the same...

the suppossed people the hijacked the planes all had readable licenses, FOUND at ground zero.....am i the only one that thinks that sounds like planted evidence????

GnarShredd · Backside 180 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 1529 City: Seattle

This is clearly the most perfect plan that the government has ever come up with. They can't do shizzle else right but when it comes to terrorizing their own country and killing thousands, they're spot on. Rolling Eyes

gporter · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject:

You guys are lame!! There were passengers on those planes, there is no conspiracy. What happened eight years ago was an act of terrorism and a tragedy.

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

9/11 was a inside job. OBVI

parm · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject:

gporter, Yea passengers who supposedly made cell phone calls from 30,000 feet. Let me know what happens when you try that next time.

TommyC · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject:

RedShred14, Smash

TWG · Kickflip Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

honestly, who cares about an investigation.......... its was a horrible tragedy, let's get over it and move on

it's not like we have authority to kill whoever did it anyways

Steven M · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject:

Just curious, but do you guys remember playing Jinga? Remember how the dam thing always* fell over at/around the weak point? I don't remember it ever really falling into itself, always sort of to one side.

Now keep in mind I'm no engineering expert or qualified in anything relating to this field of study, I mean I didn't even make it through 4 yrs of high school so I know my 2 cents are nothing more than bum change. But wouldn't you think that at those points in the building where the planes made impact, where the majority of the jet fuel was, where the flames would be hottest just weakening the steel, that something I don't know... more would happen?

I'd have figured the buildings would sort of topple or cave in to some degree at or around the point of impact of the planes.

Either that or Jinga is bulljive and I need to quit using it for answer in everyday life.

*except when outside forces are exerted unto it by a frustrated player Twisted Evil

ZackFL(BRE) · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 2386 City: Tampa

Steven M, that is what I was wondering...

parm · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject:

Gnarly Dancer 42, Honestly there are millions who care, and those responsible WILL be brought to justice. Ever heard of Watergate?

skimboarder · Posted: Sep 11, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject:

RedShred14, are you fiznackling serious? hahaha you honestly believe that demolotions were in place in these buildings to bring them down? those buildings were on fire as well.

they weren't at 30,000 feet when these calls were being placed. the terrorists had dropped altitude. the top of the world trade center isn't at 30,000 feet. i'm guessing all the planes were empty and controlled by remote as well? there was a near accident about a year ago here in knoxville and they had to make an emergency landing at tyson. several calls were placed and text messages sent from the plane to family members saying they weren't sure if they were going to make it. it is possible! and not only were cell phone calls made, documented air phone calls were made as well.

but yeah lets open it back up waste a few billion dollars to find out the same thing, the terrorists finally succeeded at what they had wanted to do for years. it's not going to bring back the lives lost. this was a terrible tragedy and to accuse the government or something of being responsible is ridiculous. i'm guessing the bombing back in '93 is government related as well.

you've watched too many youtube videos. and i know this post is in vain because no conspiracy theorist will ever accept the facts or the damn videos of the planes flying into the building